Dash9 updated!

[Machinist]

Mine is Brazil server, no problem with the update on yesterday....

[PapaXpress]

I emailed support 2 hours ago. Just got the generic clear cache and verify stuff so far.

Oh, I emailed them about 4 hours ago. Same boiler plate.

Haven't these guys figured out that our tech support team is better than theirs?

[bpetit]

Enjoy b737lvr's horn pack while you wait ;). Betcha its Steam's fault.

[MontanaRails]

The results are in, and you get a thumbs down, RSC.

I've been silent for a while now about the state of Railsimulator.com... But after watching this latest repeat of failure, I am completely disappointed in RSC. I realize a lot of users are annoyed by RSC and / or steam lately, but its even more frustrating to us who create things for the Railworks platform. I cant imagine how bad it is for those who make money through addons for it. The future of this platform seems to be getting progressively unstable. If they keep this up, I think there is going to be an impact. Knowing that something isnt accurate is one thing. A profit driven compromise was made. Its not right, but its sometimes forgivable. But everyone, casual gamer to extreme railfans alike, will all be upset when something doesnt work at all. There might be one botched release anticipated in a game company's history. Its not anticipated that it becomes the norm.

If RSC keeps doing the same thing over and over again, and it keeps resulting in making more people upset than it pleases, one would think that would mean something. It doesnt matter who's to blame. If steam is causing headaches, drop it, and figure something else out. If they're bungling code, hire better programmers. I just dont understand what Paul Jackson is thinking. He's either too involved, or not involved enough...

Do they even test these things before pushing them out? Do they send a proof to steam to download and evaluate PRIOR to pushing the release copy? How hard, really, would it be to send out something as simple as a "fix log" or "update log" several days before each and every update or release, that clearly details everything that download will touch or fix, and why they're doing it. It would at least give us some idea what to expect.

It seems as of lately, every little thing they release or optimize breaks more functionality than it improves. The bigger they get, the more they sell, they get more impersonal, reduce the attention to detail, and more of what we've created as a freeware community just gets stomped flat. I'm 80% done with my B&O Subdivision Route, and some new repaints, but I'm quickly losing faith in this platform altogether. I'm really losing interest in working on this stuff...I dont want it to be released partially done (just add to the unfinished quality of the game). I'm not sure I want it donated to someone and have my name floating around out there associated with a platform thats loathed.

This simulator had promise, and its fading. The end user having to fix the occasional screwup is okay. But its coming to the point I'm paying RSC for something, and then I spend more time doing their job for them to make it useable (often times having to re-fix fixes I already fixed when they break them again), than I am creating or enjoying.

Since they dont appear to have the motivation to shape up on their own, I suggest we all just keep kicking them in the pants - posting our legitimate gripes and complaints on their social media pages. If it gets censored, re-post it. If they block you, create a new account. Over and over again. Fill the boards with our complaints. Something good will have to come of it, whether the constant headache forces them to rethink, or they'd just throw in the towel completely. Which may sound bad, but it would give other developers the fan base and market space they need to grow.

I'm going to check back in a few months or so and see whats going on in the Rail Simulator community. If RSC is still around and doing well, I guess that means they learned their lesson. If not, it will be exciting to check out the new company that took its place!

[roinuj]

I was able to restore my Dash9 from a system backup to pre-update status to get it to work. I've also gone offline mode until, and if, RSC gets their act together. I don't want their fingers any where near my computer right now.

Tonight RCS gets

[PapaXpress]

+1 MontanaRails

[roinuj]

MontanaRails.

I was wondering how many of us are still eager to buy any of the new routes or locomotives RSC has been teasing us with the last month? If this is what we can expect from their new products, they aren't getting any more of my for a long time.

[Chessie8638]

*snip snip* I'm going to check back in a few months or so and see whats going on in the Rail Simulator community. If RSC is still around and doing well, I guess that means they learned their lesson. If not, it will be exciting to check out the new company that took its place!

This is what I am currently doing. The game's not installed nor will it until it gets to be somewhat playable (tired of fps drops, crashes, DLC broken updates, and whatnot). I'm just contributing any info I have on prototype railroads to aid in the ones still playing that ask. I did bite the bullet and re-installed and bought 'London - Brighton' when it was released (of course it was broke [no signals what-so-ever] RSC did release a patch a day later so I can't really complain to much). But finally un-installed yet again..

[PamBrooker]

I'm not kicking them in the pants any more.. My posts in this thread should provide enough data for them to zero in on the problem. And if they dont like mine they can use the data from any other one of us cuz we've all been saying the same thing, giving the same symptoms and the same test results.. I'm two inches and a shot glass away from never buying anything of theirs again, but that doesnt mean i'll stop playing railworks.. Sure i have a lot of their stuff, but, its nothing compared to the stuff i have from the locaql payware and freeware vendors here on this forum. The stuff looks good, runs good, and is enjoyable for me.. Thats why nine times out of ten ya'll will see me in cesars dd-40 and not rscs ec-44.. Or Dicks Shay instead of the challenger.. What you guys do is invaluable, and i dont need a rolls royce to have fun.. :).. Just one big blue stretch limo.

[Noel]

This is just wrong of RSC or Steam. Here is my problem and my

First of all,

How? Just how does this happen? RSC and Kuju are two of my favourite game makers of all time but it seems as though their companies have been infected with the attitude and ideals of Games Workshop and now just don't give a crap about those people playing their games, so long as they are paying the cash!

RSC is very well known for having done a massive output of railworks content and decided to ignore those gamers who helped build their company and become a corporate sellout. They don't care anymore about the feel of the games or the pure joy, instead focussing on making as much money as possible.

Thats fine for the tabletop gaming as the thousands like myself who left and only play the games they have forgotten (Chris Sawyer's Locomotion.. best game ever ) but now it seems the same attitudes and distaste for their gamers needs/desires has become attached to Steam like the virus it is. Why do i say this? Well mostly because of the same issues that continue to haunt what i consider the best game ever (for my tastes) because it has brought the feeling, the raw power of a ES44AC to life for the first time, but it fails in the MOST BASIC areas of computer gaming 101. That i wonder.

Whats wrong you ask? Well, please try understand this. I am the type of gamer who plays for fun, who plays to have fun but who is able to let go many many faults if i like the game. Faults, issues, etc rarely bother me enough to have EVER written something like this but this game has got me to this point.

A quick idea about me as a driver in Railworks... i have played with a single red bar in almost every single solitary game i have ever played. I play regularly hence i have a lot of trains and rolling stock to use, as well as many routes I can use and crate as well.

I just wonder why it has all happened since the Dash 9 DLC Update came in. Nothing was released advising of a change was there? I have looked around and can't find any mention of a change in the HOSTING process so why has it gone so mental? The regular hangs while searching and finding a game has gotten worse, i have to search 4-6 different areas looking for games at the moment which i never had to look in more than two... it sucks the most because even though it is going to kill the game and the content itself, it already.

I'm not a troll, I simply often think gamers nowadays are often times prone to being ****ball pirates that behave like spoiled little rotten children, in the least, it appears that way more often than not. So frequently it seems all many of them have is critiques for every game, every time.

Just my on all of what RSC and Steam have done.

Anyways, now for the bad news.

I tried a verify cache one more time, and it went way too fast for it. So I went into my railworks folder, and everything is there and here I am hinking "Thank god I finally fixed it." Did I really?

Nope. Wrong on so many levels.

I went into the game to see if it had really worked. What it did is horrible beyond believing. It had deleted all of my routes, even the default ones, and it also deleted all of the engines and rolling stock off of the game as well. I hink either RSC needs to fix this crap with the updates, and Steam needs to get their freaking crap "verify game cache" thing so I can get all of my stuff back.

I an going to get some rest and tomorrow, I am going to re install railworks entirely. I have had enough of all of the bullcrap these two have put to me.

[MikeK]

Enjoy b737lvr's horn pack while you wait ;). Betcha its Steam's fault.

I have bought and played hundreds of games over the years on steam, and I have never had a single issue with any of them, except railworks. Steam has been fantastic for me.

On the other hand, not only is railworks the only one to have an issue, but it seems that EVERY update from these guys has some kind of problem.

This is not a steam problem, it is a railworks problem.

[up_8677]

Same. There's a first time for everything I guess.


All the Dash 9 assets are still present in my railworks, but they do not work. Just have to wait on them to fix it. No real worries though because I'm busy feasting my ears and eyes on enhanced SD70s and ES44s courtesy of Krellnut and Machinist.

[Chessie8638]

I have bought and played hundreds of games over the years on steam, and I have never had a single issue with any of them, except railworks. Steam has been fantastic for me.

On the other hand, not only is railworks the only one to have an issue, but it seems that EVERY update from these guys has some kind of problem.

This is not a steam problem, it is a railworks problem.

+1.

Steam just distributes anything RSC or any company gives them and doesn't "test" the content. With so much content they receive it's just not possible. I've been using Steam since 2006 and never had a single issue with them. Had to contact support once and got a quick response. I buy all my games through Steam if possible. Would RSC be better off without Steam? Maybe, maybe not. Would they have a bigger user base if they didn't use Steam, yes. Anyhoo, problems are with RSC not Steam..

[Rich_S]

Mine is Brazil server, no problem with the update on yesterday....

Hi Machinist, Just wondering what video card you are using?

[artimrj]

The D9 update is working for some people. I would assume when they did test it it worked for all the people who tested it. Now they have to find the glitch we all have reported. Yeah I know it sucks, but maybe a little patience will help.