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Lost pullmans?

Unread postby Unoriginal » Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:50 am

Recently I found out that BLLW at some point, had standard pullman coaches available seen here viewtopic.php?f=22&t=405

Are these technically lost now? I cannot seem to find these on their site anymore. I don't even think BLLW is active anymore either so I doubt I'd get a response from one of them.
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Re: Lost pullmans?

Unread postby buzz456 » Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:25 am

Unoriginal wrote:Recently I found out that BLLW at some point, had standard pullman coaches available seen here viewtopic.php?f=22&t=405

Are these technically lost now? I cannot seem to find these on their site anymore. I don't even think BLLW is active anymore either so I doubt I'd get a response from one of them.

He was on here as of a couple of months ago. Have you tried all the links provided with his handle? I have a copy of these in a BandO paint scheme but don't remember exactly where I got them from. I'm sure it was from him though.
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Re: Lost pullmans?

Unread postby Unoriginal » Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:43 am

Care to show that car? Seems he did have B&O planned next on that post I sent.

I had no idea he was still online, hope everything's still going well for him.
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Re: Lost pullmans?

Unread postby buzz456 » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:51 pm

They are pretty old and pretty crude. I can post something later.
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Re: Lost pullmans?

Unread postby PullmanCar » Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:18 am

They were 6-3 Pullman heavyweights. SQUARE series (6 compartment, 3 drawing room). I spoke with him about them at one point within the last few years as I naturally would adore any proper heavyweight Pullman in train simulator, although 3410s and 4025s are my favourites, anything would do (although it is my opinion a section sleeper would be the most versatile (12 section 1 drawing room; 10-1-1, etc). Sadly nothing ever came of it. I truly wish we could get a heavyweight Pullman in Train Sim, and not a coach. Over 7,900 Pullmans were on the roster in 1931, Pullman’s peak year. Certainly any classic 1910s-1960s consist should have a heavyweight Pullman, name trains pre-war, and secondary trains post-war as lightweight stock replaced them.

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Re: Lost pullmans?

Unread postby buzz456 » Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:23 am

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Re: Lost pullmans?

Unread postby Unoriginal » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:20 pm

Looks to be an okay model.
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Re: Lost pullmans?

Unread postby PullmanCar » Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:11 pm

Model certainly looks okay. With some detailed textures as I did on the old MSTS Converted Blue Comet Combine, I think it could look quite nice. I had only ever seen the PRR Tuscan versions, and the Pullman standard variant (“Pullman Green”). How nice it would be to have these in Train Sim. B&O no less, a mate for my beloved 98.....

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Re: Lost pullmans?

Unread postby PullmanCar » Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:12 am



Those are the ones I remember yes, same chap doing them as well. Pity the Railworks ones are no longer available.

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Re: Lost pullmans?

Unread postby hobo1960 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:20 am

Has anyone been able to reach out to BLLW and see if these are still available?

Isn't the designer still active in these forums?

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Re: Lost pullmans?

Unread postby buzz456 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:46 am

For those of you following this here is the documentation I have here regarding these puppies.

KRS BLLW PULLMAN 6-3 Guide.pdf
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Re: Lost pullmans?

Unread postby PullmanCar » Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:25 am

buzz456 wrote:For those of you following this here is the documentation I have here regarding these puppies.

KRS BLLW PULLMAN 6-3 Guide.pdf


Quite detailed and a very nice narrative. The only inaccuracy I spotted immediately, was the date of Pullman’s establishment and the station bench. For their time this looks a very quality add-on, that could still fill the void in Train Sim, these days if still available. It evens makes mention of the signal line, and steam heat connections, that is a quality job. Many would overlook those or the differences in air conditioning systems and brine tanks.
If only we could see a re-release. It is my understanding from contact that BLLW considered them to be outdated and in need of a revamp to fit today’s expectations. I personally would take them how they were, just to have a heavyweight Pullman, and baring the textures being upgraded, the model seemed excellent.

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Re: Lost pullmans?

Unread postby TVRRMAN » Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:58 pm

I apologize for the late and long overdue reply to this post - and appreciate the kind words about these cars.

When these were built, I had just taken the leap to move from developing content for a game called Microsoft Train Simulator; into what was then Kuju's Rail Simulator US. As such, these cars had also originally been built for MSTS (much like the original H21as I offered had been), and transitioned over to this then-new simulator when the decision to abandon MSTS production was made.
As such, I had pulled them from the market with intentions to rebuild them to my then-current rolling stock specs. of course, as such, life decided to throw a curveball: the computer containing the necessary software to let me properly rebuild these cars, and continue on the other project cars I had underway; decided to crash once and for all. With this machine out, a change in career, and lack of time to dedicate towards completing these, I've unfortunately been forced into a semi-permanent hiatus.

Wished I had a better answer.
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