New York Division-Bergen Line - Part Deux!

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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line - Part Deux!

Unread postby alanch » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:54 am

Living in the UK, and running mostly UK routes these days, I saw screenshots of this route on Trainsim and thought I should have a look for myself. So after trying a couple of the Quickdrives that didn't take me far, I set up a free roam and have driven most of the main tracks now.

I agree with others - this is a work of art, and should be better known. I'm posting something about it on the UKTrainsim forum.

Two questions:

1 are there any scenarios available, either on the Steam Workshop or on any of the forum libraries?

2 are you planning to add route markers so it is easier to set up scenarios and place rolling stock?
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line - Part Deux!

Unread postby minerman146 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:14 am

alanch - Its great to see a post like this.

1. Scenarios - they are being some made on the OVSRAILS website here: http://ovsrails.freeforums.net/You need to register to join. On their page is a folder for "Scenarios for testing" my route has prefix for the scenario number OVRBL-001-78. OVRBL ( the RBL part means Railworks Bergen Line ) They mix in their own rolling stock some times. So do read the descriptions.

2. Scenarios - There is a final version of the route as it was in December for 2017 in workshop. There are less than 10 scenarios for that, they are mostly end to end runs. Workshop Link for Route: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... =827078456 Link to list of known scenarios here:https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/827078456/154644928861696712/ Link to Rolling Stock for the route (some I made, some right here on RWA) https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/827078456/154644928865783760/

3. Scenarios Current/Future: this version of the route is not final so no workshop. However the routes track is complete from Croxton/Hoboken in the East to Middletown, NY which is 71 miles West. Scenarios can be make will low risk to me changing the track.

4. Route Markers - mine got deleted and stopped using them. (if someone has markers for the Bergen and will post them here it would be a great help) To move around the map I use the "9" key to go to the 2D map, then I ctrl+click to mark where I want to go in editor. This works only in editor

Thank you for finding this route and please link your post in UKTrainSim so I can read it and answer questions.

The best part of my route - all the branches go some where and have full scenery .. do check them out.

!*cheers*!
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line - Part Deux!

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:41 am

Here you go.

NYDivMarkers.zip


Unzip and put in the Assets folder.
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line - Part Deux!

Unread postby alanch » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:42 am

minerman146 wrote:alanch - Its great to see a post like this.

4. Route Markers - mine got deleted and stopped using them. (if someone has markers for the Bergen and will post them here it would be a great help) To move around the map I use the "9" key to go to the 2D map, then I ctrl+click to mark where I want to go in editor. This works only in editor

Thank you for finding this route and please link your post in UKTrainSim so I can read it and answer questions.

The best part of my route - all the branches go some where and have full scenery .. do check them out.

!*cheers*!


Hi Adam (is that right? - I'm Alan in Leeds)

I'll have a look at the scenario links, and see what I can find - I think I've still got a lot of US stock installed, so I can substitute for what I have.

For the time being I've set up a pair of Britkits SW1200s as a consist, and stationed them strategically around the route so I can look at some of the branches as well as the main lines. I've had little runs up the Dundee Spur to the Passaic Woollen Company - loved the street scenes and the views around the bridge over the river, and from Campbell Hall up to Maybrook and the Staples Distribution Centre. There are sometimes subtle, and often massive, differences from UK practice, so you go from an area that could almost be over here to something that is totally alien to us. Street running was never common in the UK, and has now totally vanished, I think. All our railways are fenced off from public access - sometimes those fences blend into the scenery, other times they are very intrusive, so it is very obvious in open areas that your railways are different to ours.

I wonder for the long term (I use that relatively, because you've already been working on this for years) if it would have been better if you had set up your own route template, time of day and weather files and folders, though I guess that isn't easy for a Workshop route. Only possible, probably, by having a separate set of files that users could download from a file library, but that does complicate things, as you need to keep both the Workshop version and your version working.

Here's the link to the UKTrainsim post http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... c8e318e1d1

That's all for now

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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line - Part Deux!

Unread postby minerman146 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:40 am

Alan, again, thank you so much. It is interest like yours that has kept me building this to make it to a logical end. ( as I have written extensively before) I made the compromises I needed to work within the confines of Workshop. The route started as a test to learn to build, so this is my first and only route. So the route was very well established before I learned about using my own blueprints. I have one custom track rule for 15m radius, which of course, ruins the frogs. (See Dundee Spur and Harlem Station).

I am so pleased if a new group finds the Bergen. I can already see 4 new subscribers today. I will be monitoring my subscription page, here and I am watching the UKTransim site. Great post by the way!

This thread will be closed in the coming hours or days as we are at page 101. I will create a new one, the third in our series for the NY Division - Bergen Line when that occurs

Warmest regards,
Adam

PS: reading the thread on UKTrainsim - it makes me so so very happy read what they are saying! *!greengrin!*
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line - Part Deux!

Unread postby minerman146 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:00 pm

Yes, after the past months of trials - THIS is the post I needed to read. :D

I'm thinking of the new thread title:

New York Division-Bergen Line: Episode III, The Erie Rises
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line - Part Deux!

Unread postby philmoberg » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:49 pm

minerman146 wrote:...

I think for the past 3 or so years I put up a picture of the Manhattan Skyline as seen from Hoboken. ... When I was working on the route at this time, and as someone born before these structures were built, I remember them when they were new. My father remembers seeing them built. With the losses of that day and the loss of a different time I so fondly remember, I made the decision to include what you see below.

This was a difficult decision to make, and to be tasteful. I mean it to be a quiet remembrance. The structures are just 'there'. My only connection to the place is a job interview I had in 1992 at a company called Insurance Services Office. I think it was on the 40th floor of WTC1. This was the only time I was ever there. It would have been such an honor to work at such a company and at such a place. I was so excited I brought my newly-wed wife on the trip to spend the day after the interview. It was not in the cards for me to get the position. I wish I had.

So this scene is but a small gesture to them on that day. It is a gesture of respect to the City of New York. It is a way we can relive our shared past. In some small way, if it gets you think about the love we have for our country and our people, then I say Thank You for remembering with me. God Bless them and those who are with us today and those who lived on, beyond that day.


Before you close this thread, I wanted to log on and thank you for this. I, too, remember Manhattan before these structures were built. At that time, I had no idea that my life would become connected with them. Beginning in the late-'70s, I began making regular trips down to the WTC, at that time dealing with the various planning agencies there. You may remember Tri-State, or at least have seen some for their old reports floating around. Yeah, it was that far back ...

In latter days I dealt mostly with the Port Authority. A former colleague and very good friend of mine had ended up with them by those days, and was in a meeting five floors up when the bomb went off. The day of the attack, he didn't make it in due to a late train. But for the tragedy of the day, the story might have been comical, but that's a separate discussion. As far as I have been able to determine, those I dealt with regularly either got out or didn't make it in. Others I'm not so sure about, because it became difficult to track them down in the aftermath.

I will confess to a certain impatience with much of the commemoration in recent years, but that, too, is a separate discussion best left for other venues. Had it been me, I'd have hoped they'd have rebuilt the towers where they stood, perhaps because I come from hurricane country (the Gulf Coast) and that's just the way we tend[ed] to think in those parts. No matter. Your's is the sort of gesture of respect and remembrance I'd hoped for. Thanks kindly. I appreciate it.
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line - Part Deux!

Unread postby minerman146 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:47 pm

I'd have hoped they'd have rebuilt the towers where they stood

Phil - I couldn't agree more brother.
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line - Part Deux!

Unread postby Pwelt » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:22 am

Hello:
I also would like to thank you for all the hard work and for sharing with the community.

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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line - Part Deux!

Unread postby alanch » Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:12 pm

buzz456 wrote:Here you go.

Unzip and put in the Assets folder.


I created an Assets\RSC\ShermanHill\RouteMarkers\ folder and copied the .bin and .xml there - then renamed the .xml to .dcsv.

Now I have markers, so thanks Buzz.
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line - Part Deux!

Unread postby minerman146 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:43 pm

Looks like were at the very end to Part Deux and its now time to move on. We can see the light at the end of the tunnel. As the tunnel at Otisville, New York markes the final leg of our journey, the picture of the view Westward from this tunnel is most appropriate.
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