Northeast Corridor (New York - Philadelphia) Removed from Steam Store

[jalsina]

The Northeast Corridor route is still in Amazon if anyone wants it.

But would you be able to download it as you use the code on Steam to download it and as it isn't there you won't get it. Amazon should take it off there site !

I am positive about that, while Amazon sells it.

[buzz456]

I just looked. It says it's unavailable.

[jalsina]

I just looked. It says it's unavailable.

Nope! It is still available:
http://www.amazon.com/Northeast-Corrido ... t+Corridor

[buzz456]

I was wrong. . I was looking for the GG1 which I have never owned.

[jalsina]

The chaps in UK are reporting that is also available in Amazon UK, considering the Amazon USA note:
"Online Code: Currently, this item is available only to customers located in the United States."
In case Canadians are in need of getting it somewhere else.

[NorthernWarrior]

But we have not said they will not come back.

That does not emphatically say they will, either, and "several months" could be a long time for someone waiting to get the assets to run a freeware route.

Also I still remember quite vividly the Phorum Peninsula saga and the undertaking given by Matt Peddlesen (when he was still talking to me) that he was going to look at putting the narrow gauge and tramway resources on Workshop or Marketplace (for a nominal fee). That went, er, precisely nowhere.

What with the regional selling restrictions from the US railroads which DTG seem incapable of resolving and now the removal of DLC that isn't selling very well, it puts would be freeware authors in a very difficult position as regards sourcing assets for their routes. NEC today, Donner Pass (another lackluster offering) tomorrow, maybe, which would remove a significant amount of SP assets from the pool. I know DTG and the acolytes will argue that DLC isn't created for the benefit of route builders but, 1. It surely boosts sales of products people would otherwise be uninterested in and, 2. It is the only way to source assets for routes intended to go on Marketplace as third party content is not permitted.

I don't want the above to come across as negative or vexatious, more frustration that DTG seem to be set on hampering independent development and driving route builders such as myself in the direction of Trainz or, heaven help, ancient MSTS when they should be doing everything they can to encourage us. That starts with keeping a stable collection of DLC publically available to fill our creative palette and not withdrawing it on a whim.

[Derek]

Phorum is a different situation altogether Vern.

It was put together by many different people and it became very complicated.
However The good news on that is that Kev passed the rights to the narrow guage to another 3rd party.
From that something else more special is coming, but more news on that over the coming months.

I'd not describe Donner Pass Lack luster either. ;)

And you are right, I did not say when any of them are coming back, because while we have a plan of action I have no firm dates yet. And everyone loves a date.
When we have more information on them we will let folks know.

But the NEC for example has been out a long time and those that want it have it, (it has also been through many many sales), so it only really only effects new people coming into our world. And well they will not miss it because they don't know about it.

However our aim is to have everything available at the right price.

regards

Derek

[NorthernWarrior]

Well that seems to indicate good news about the narrow gauge at least.

Ffestiniog + Welsh Highland combined would be awesome, if that was on the cards!

[buzz456]

Derek,
The only problem for the new guys is that if there is a third party developer out there that used the NEC assets for example and states you must have it to run his route and it's not available it kind of leaves him out in the cold. I will add that there is so much stuff available out there today compared to back in the day that a newbie could install stuff for two years and still not spend enough time to really enjoy a good route. I think some people just collect stuff and never actually run anything. Others just spend all their time finding things to gripe about. The rest of us are just having a very good time with a great simulator game. I just pray every day for your continued success so this doesn't get abandoned like MSTS.

[FanRailer]

Derek,
The only problem for the new guys is that if there is a third party developer out there that used the NEC assets for example and states you must have it to run his route and it's not available it kind of leaves him out in the cold. I will add that there is so much stuff available out there today compared to back in the day that a newbie could install stuff for two years and still not spend enough time to really enjoy a good route. I think some people just collect stuff and never actually run anything. Others just spend all their time finding things to gripe about. The rest of us are just having a very good time with a great simulator game. I just pray every day for your continued success so this doesn't get abandoned like MSTS.

My thoughts exactly; to add on to that point, I am also concerned that folks who already have that DLC, but for some reason need to verify their cache, uninstall/reinstall their game on an existing PC, or are porting over to a new PC will lose the content that they have previously paid for and has since been removed from Steam.

[NorthernWarrior]

I believe for existing purchasers the data will still be available should you need to reinstall or verify the cache. It's new users or those who don't own the route but suddenly find they need it to run a third party route, who will be inconvenienced.

[FanRailer]

I believe for existing purchasers the data will still be available should you need to reinstall or verify the cache. It's new users or those who don't own the route but suddenly find they need it to run a third party route, who will be inconvenienced.

Well, does anyone want to volunteer to be a test subject?

[buzz456]

Deleted it and re-aquired from Steam no problem.

[FanRailer]

Deleted it and re-aquired from Steam no problem.

[OpenRailer90]

Even content that is discontinued still remains in the Steam Library. I installed TS2014 on a new machine and I received the old TestTrak route, but somehow didn't have the SEC in my library; it only remained in my older machine.