Repaints by ROINUJ [Future Plans]

[thecanadianrail]

Good to see you back! Yes the new stuff is a pain to repaint from rsc, I have found that making the whole loco 1 color and painting from there like a light grey helps alot with this new stuff for me. Try it out and see how that works for you. (grey being easy to spot against cn paint works great) on the new locos and the bnsf es44 has decal textures for the logos which helps alot too.

[roinuj]

..... These things are a nightmare. This makes no sense to me because if a person is in love with a particular railroad one of us hobby guys does a re-paint of it isn't that person much more likely to spring for the piece of payware?

Just makes sense to me.

I agree 100% with you Buzz. I have to think the more repaints and modifications available from the community, the more likely for payware purchases. There is no way RSC can keep up with all the different railways people are interested in. I've been recently messing around with ARMA3 Alpha and Beta and that simulation has a huge modding community that supports and extends the game and probably is the reason it has been around since 2006. I think that is a model that would really benefit TS13.

BTW, it was not my intentions to make this a bashing comment. More of expressing frustration at the latest trend.

Good to see you back! Yes the new stuff is a pain to repaint from rsc, I have found that making the whole loco 1 color and painting from there like a light grey helps alot with this new stuff for me. Try it out and see how that works for you. (grey being easy to spot against cn paint works great) on the new locos and the bnsf es44 has decal textures for the logos which helps alot too.

I'll give that a try. I think the main issue comes down to the little details and trying to map them for repaint. Like my example about the louver. In the older models, they were treated as Bumps and they looked just fine in game and easy to deal with. On the new models, each blade is individually modeled with individual textures. Not very efficient in my opinion. I do like the decal use (except when its mirrored like on the Sherman Hill ES44) for logos but having the textures so cut up will make the weathering I like to do almost impossible unless I can come up with a weathering decal???

[UPSD70ACe]

I like to see a Amtrak California Dash 9 or ES44AC.

[buzz456]

I would like to see a lot of things. And I would make some of them if it weren't so difficult. I spent four hours just trying to determine what page the trim around the ditch lights are on the GP38 and I still don't know where two sides are. Ridiculous.

[thecanadianrail]

Well with weathering the locomotive this will be a very big issue for the extent of quality detail you put in, good thing the newer locos they are releasing only typically have basic dirt and dust weathering. For the new SD40's being painted into CN zebra then weathered will probably take 3-4x as long as it does on older locos but it is possible if you manage to not go insane! Btw, I am surprised you haven't touched the RSC GP9 pack, those early geeps are just crying out for some dirt and grime with a few added features. I think CN had the high nose GP9's in the zebra and the big noodle schemes before they were chopped and made into GP9RM's. Have a great day!

(P.S. all the freightcars feel left out of all this stuff )

[roinuj]

Well with weathering the locomotive this will be a very big issue for the extent of quality detail you put in, good thing the newer locos they are releasing only typically have basic dirt and dust weathering. For the new SD40's being painted into CN zebra then weathered will probably take 3-4x as long as it does on older locos but it is possible if you manage to not go insane! Btw, I am surprised you haven't touched the RSC GP9 pack, those early geeps are just crying out for some dirt and grime with a few added features. I think CN had the high nose GP9's in the zebra and the big noodle schemes before they were chopped and made into GP9RM's. Have a great day!

(P.S. all the freightcars feel left out of all this stuff )

I have the RCS Gp9 pack but for some reason it just isn't catching my interest though one day I vow to a GP9 Toronto, Hamilton Buffalo railway version just for fun. As for the GP9Rm's, that is one that is still high on my ToDo list. Britkits model is the closest we have to work with. Wish I was way better at 3d modelling to do a one with the correct cab and slug unit.

You're right about the new models, a simple weathering dust is all thats needed just to tone down the new paint look which could be applied to all the textures. As for doing zebra stripes on the new SD40-2, I'm already having a drink thinking about how frustrating and insane that would be............

Now rolling stock repaints is definitely a possibility. I also have a CN Heritage idea floating around in my head for the older Dash-9 and SD70 models........CN Green versions? Could by some hypothetical fun.

[thecanadianrail]

Possibly of a heritage fleet?! Awesome! If you do, I recommend doing it like ns and use the original schemes. But back to the freight cars, I do think some matching boxcars and hoppers and such will be a great addition to your currently released stuff.

[CSX2057]

What sucks with GP9 no light enhancement. I talk to RSC about it, didn't even care to fix it. Just sayin.

[thecanadianrail]

was thinking of stuff you would probably like to do, then I remembered it! CN still owns the SD45T-2's that they got from DMIR (converted into SD40T-2's) and the SD40T-3's they got from BL&E, which were all originally SP/SSW locomotives! And Donner Pass came with an SD40T-2 that I don't think has that new overcomplicated mapping yet?



ex BL&E are repainted into CN and are numbered 900-910 (repainted to my knowledge but there might be one or 2 in BL&E?)
ex DMIR are repainted into CN with DMIR reporting marks and are numbered 400,402-409 with the exception of #403 which still is in DMIR maroon

[roinuj]

Thanks for the suggestion. I may give them try. I also cam across a sweet CN dash9 railphoto that will give my weather skills a real test that I'm contemplating when I get the paint shop up and running. No hints until its an official WIP.

I'm also going to have another look at the textures for the SD40 to see if there s any way to work with them. There's got to be a way to do this and make these models work.

[thecanadianrail]

Thanks for the suggestion. I may give them try. I also cam across a sweet CN dash9 railphoto that will give my weather skills a real test that I'm contemplating when I get the paint shop up and running. No hints until its an official WIP.

I'm also going to have another look at the textures for the SD40 to see if there s any way to work with them. There's got to be a way to do this and make these models work.

heavily weathered dash9? I have looked high and low and couldn't find anything of CN's regular C44's that's got bad weathering? the C44-9WL's have lots and the C40-8w's were in bad shape when bought. now you've got me all worked up lol!

[5292nate]

In a response to an earlier post made by ROINUJ, I was told by someone from RSC that the way to repaint has not changed. Just that the old way was wrong because we were reverse engineering the textures, which is wrong. Sounds rediculous to me.

[roinuj]

heavily weathered dash9? I have looked high and low and couldn't find anything of CN's regular C44's that's got bad weathering? the C44-9WL's have lots and the C40-8w's were in bad shape when bought. now you've got me all worked up lol!

Oops...I double checked. It was a Dash 8......ex Santa Fe CN 2182.

In a response to an earlier post made by ROINUJ, I was told by someone from RSC that the way to repaint has not changed. Just that the old way was wrong because we were reverse engineering the textures, which is wrong. Sounds rediculous to me.

Hasn't changed?? Reverse engineering the textures???? That certainly does sounds ridiculous to me too.

[buzz456]

@ Chacal. Any idea what the RSC guy might be talking about?

[5292nate]

@ Chacal. Any idea what the RSC guy might be talking about?

I know you said Chacal, but I'm thinking they're refering to the TGPCDX to DDS conversion.