SD70 MAC or M?

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SD70 MAC or M?

Unread postby RSAdam » Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:37 am

Hiya,

What are the locomotives in this shot:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/luckystrike92/3943075821/

Are they MAC or M versions?

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Re: SD70 MAC or M?

Unread postby thecanadianrail » Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:40 am

UP only had SD70 M's, althouth they are almost identical to the MAC's.
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Re: SD70 MAC or M?

Unread postby TDHenderson » Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:43 am

Adam,

UP 4180 is an SD70M. See more here: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPi ... px?id=8486

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Re: SD70 MAC or M?

Unread postby RSAdam » Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:59 am

Cheers for the confirmation. So the main difference between the M and MAC is the DC/AC traction equipment. Reading up, both came in 4,000Hp versions as well.

Could RSC take their SD70MAC from the Volume2 DLC that came in BNSF colours and make an M UP version? :)

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Re: SD70 MAC or M?

Unread postby thecanadianrail » Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:08 am

yes, with only minor changes, although it depends if you want to do the early one or the late one. if you are going to do one do it with the flaired radiators instead of the flat side ones like on the mac, due to the fact that the SD70M with the flat side radiators is already being made by a member here, almost done too so if you guys did that it would kinda be like a shot in the foot for him.
some info on this version of the loco:

Starting in mid-2000, the SD70M was produced with SD45-style flared radiators allowing for the larger radiator cores needed for split-cooling (split-cooling is a feature that separates the coolant circuit for the prime mover and the circuit for the air pumps and turbocharger). There are two versions of this radiator, the older version with two (2) large radiator panels per side, and the newer style with four (4) square panels per side. This was due to the enactment of the EPA's Tier I environmental regulations. so basicaly this is the one we need. !!*ok*!! (not too much work for doing this, just a few minor adjustments in the rear and on the front windows.)
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Re: SD70 MAC or M?

Unread postby BNSF650 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:10 am

SD70M with the flat side radiators.
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SD70M S
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Cab shots of the SD70M
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Re: SD70 MAC or M?

Unread postby thecanadianrail » Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:29 am

as i recall the early SD70m's with the flaired rads had a 3 window variation on the front.
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Re: SD70 MAC or M?

Unread postby BNSF650 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:37 am

Nope you are thinking about the EMD SD60M's them would be nice to have though *!greengrin!*

The SD60M came with the 3 Window version and also the two window.
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Re: SD70 MAC or M?

Unread postby Chessie8638 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:52 am

Oh boy UP SD70M.... So many variations. Flared radiators with 4 pieces or none. Flat radiators. Phase I and II Cabs. Different control stands, decals set at different heights oh my!

- Phase I Cab:
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- Phase II Cab (Note "Notched Nose"):
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- Flared Rad's w/ 2 piece 4 sections:
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- Flared Rad's w/ 2 piece and no sections:
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- Normal Rad's:
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- UP #3852 Walk-Around:
http://www.pbase.com/espeef5/up_3852

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Love them tri-window Canadian Cabs!
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Re: SD70 MAC or M?

Unread postby johnmckenzie » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:58 am

RSAdam wrote:Could RSC take their SD70MAC from the Volume2 DLC that came in BNSF colours and make an M UP version? :)


Yes, please! !!*ok*!!
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Re: SD70 MAC or M?

Unread postby BNSF650 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:03 pm

I forgot about the Notched nose units. !*salute*!
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Re: SD70 MAC or M?

Unread postby Trainguy76 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:46 pm

!*hp*! !*hp*! !*hp*! !*hp*!


Aaaaah!

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And it's so close too...

Sorry, it just seems it would make my work almost useless. If you can understand my frustration. (Of course the cab in mine can't be as high quality because of a distinct lack of lots of cab pictures.
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Re: SD70 MAC or M?

Unread postby thecanadianrail » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:14 pm

after they see that pic of your WIP they will feel bad if they make your work for nothing and will end up making the other variations of the SD70M
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Re: SD70 MAC or M?

Unread postby TDHenderson » Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:04 pm

thecanadianrail wrote:after they see that pic of your WIP they will feel bad if they make your work for nothing and will end up making the other variations of the SD70M


Or offer to buy out your work to date. Just a thought.

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Re: SD70 MAC or M?

Unread postby BNSF650 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:09 pm

Yea maybe you all could work togethere or something.
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