Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

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Re: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

Unread postby UP3985 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:49 am

Yes, you might, and I'm simply excited that it's this good already, and it'll look great grunged up to look like the dirty thirties as well in due time.
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Re: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

Unread postby ozinoz » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:12 pm

It is going to be uinteresting to see how the loco roster for this route turns out.

The publicity blurb details the B4D consolidation. A nice little loco, but by 1930, of the 8 owned and operated by the C&S, 63-70, 3 had been scrapped ; 63 in 1929, 66 in 1923 & 67 in 1927 and 64 had been sold to Mexico a decade prior. This leaves just 4. Whether any of the newer B4E's which made it into the 1940's make it to the roster or any of the slightly older B4C's remains to be seen.

Love the narrow gauge, so no matter what, this will be a day 1 purchase.

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Re: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

Unread postby ElphabaWS » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:14 pm

ozinoz wrote:It is going to be uinteresting to see how the loco roster for this route turns out.

The publicity blurb details the B4D consolidation. A nice little loco, but by 1930, of the 8 owned and operated by the C&S, 63-70, 3 had been scrapped ; 63 in 1929, 66 in 1923 & 67 in 1927 and 64 had been sold to Mexico a decade prior. This leaves just 4. Whether any of the newer B4E's which made it into the 1940's make it to the roster or any of the slightly older B4C's remains to be seen.

Love the narrow gauge, so no matter what, this will be a day 1 purchase.

**!!bow!!**

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The last two locomotives to operate on the Clear Creek lines were B4Ds Nos. 69 and 70. No. 70 pulled the last regular revenue freight on May 4, 1941. Nos. 69 and 70 both worked the dismantling trains that summer.
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Re: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

Unread postby ozinoz » Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:56 pm

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Very interesting in the cinder catching department. A good looking loco that is for sure...

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Re: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

Unread postby mjlevy1118 » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:20 am

This is incredible news! Small, narrow gauge steam is what got me hooked on trains as a kid, and except for a couple routes, mostly British and Welsh and the WIP Durango and Silverton, the genre has been overlooked so far in TS. Well done to Milepost Simulations and DTG, I can't wait to get my hands on this one.
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Re: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

Unread postby TheEmmaSweeny1 » Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:51 pm

So... We now have.... A narrow gauge route and a 4-4-0 on the way!!! YEEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!! !*roll-laugh*! !*YAAA*! !*YAAA*! !!howdy!! **!!bow!!** !*brav*! !!*ok*!! :D *!!wink!!* !*cheers*!
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Re: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

Unread postby ozinoz » Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:41 pm

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4th April 2016 at 7:23 am

Yes it will be available to all but, as instructed by BNSF, will not include the appropriate branding outside of North America."

This was posted over on the article page in relation to a question asked about BNSF licencing. What issue could there be with a 80 year old fallen flag steam line? Can anybody hazzard a guess what this means in english? Are those non-US residents going to get unliveried locomotives & rollingstock? Unfortunately I do not Farcebook and the like so I cant ask the question over on the page, but I believe it is an important one for prospective purchasers. I understand the genealocical path, just seems beyond reason

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Re: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

Unread postby buzz456 » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:42 pm

Since you don't subscribe to FaceBook you will never know what was said. We will work through it.
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Re: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

Unread postby BoostedFridge » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:47 pm

Clear Creek -> C&S -> CB&Q -> BN -> BNSF

It's a stretch, but I guess it does fall under the BNSF licensing umbrella.
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Re: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

Unread postby buzz456 » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:35 pm

BoostedFridge wrote:Clear Creek -> C&S -> CB&Q -> BN -> BNSF

It's a stretch, but I guess it does fall under the BNSF licensing umbrella.


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Re: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

Unread postby McCRRR19 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:15 am

BoostedFridge wrote:Clear Creek -> C&S -> CB&Q -> BN -> BNSF

It's a stretch, but I guess it does fall under the BNSF licensing umbrella.


The C&S itself lasted longer than it's narrow gauge divisions. The C&S was a CB&Q subsidiary and any engine assigned to the C&S at one point carried the "Burlington Route" logo along with saying "C&S" some where on the engine. While the CB&Q was apart of the initial BN merger, the C&S would not become fully absorbed by the BN until 1981 which also included the Fort Worth & Denver. And I do believe BN had engines with C&S reporting marks. In any of the BNSF's products featuring it's predecessor roads the round C&S logo is always included. BNSF also has a "heritage covered hopper" that carries the C&S logo as well. So, not really that far of a stretch, in my opinion, even if it is a narrow gauge in the 1930's. Here in Gillette, on the pool the runs from Gillette to Guernsey on the Orin Line, there is still a turn for both conductors and engineer's marked "C&S Allocated Turn-Do Not Cut" which has something to do with the agreements created when the Orin line was constructed in the early 1970's, since Orin Jct. to Wendover, WY is technically on track built by the C&S along with any coal trains that need to use the Front Range Sub which is also ex-C&S.
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Re: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

Unread postby ozinoz » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:38 am

- I never cease to be amazed at the depth of knowledge floating around here... *!!thnx!!*

Still going to be EXTREMELY annoyed (I want to say something else, but annoyed will suffice) if all we can end up with is unlined / unliveried rolling stock

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Re: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

Unread postby buzz456 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:39 am

ozinoz wrote:- I never cease to be amazed at the depth of knowledge floating around here... *!!thnx!!*

Still going to be EXTREMELY annoyed (I want to say something else, but annoyed will suffice) if all we can end up with is unlined / unliveried rolling stock

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Don't waste your time being annoyed. Or whatever. If they do that it will be about three point two minutes before signage is out just like The Race Track.
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Re: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

Unread postby ozinoz » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:38 pm

buzz456 wrote:
ozinoz wrote:- I never cease to be amazed at the depth of knowledge floating around here... *!!thnx!!*

Still going to be EXTREMELY annoyed (I want to say something else, but annoyed will suffice) if all we can end up with is unlined / unliveried rolling stock

!*cheers*!

Don't waste your time being annoyed. Or whatever. If they do that it will be about three point two minutes before signage is out just like The Race Track.


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Hadnt really followed developments / issues with the Racetrack - not really my thing - thanks for the reassurance...

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Re: Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

Unread postby TheEmmaSweeny1 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:46 pm

Did anyone else notice the "CONOCO" tank car says "COLOCO" in the WIP screenshots? does this have to do with liscencing? **!!bang!!**
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