PRR Centipede on its way!

[harryadkins]

Next is a model of the SD45 and a U25B.

[glenn68]

Next is a model of the SD45 and a U25B.

I wish.

[dcushing]

Next is a model of the SD45 and a U25B.

I wish.

Why wish? Both have already been announced. May not necessarly be "next", but both are on their way.

Duncan

[_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha]

We all have our favourite wish lists, and I assume most users haven't thought about Centipedes for their wish list's top positions.

Nevermind that, any new engine is welcome.

This Centipede and the announced SD45 are not done by RSC themselves, right? RSC merely fasciliates their distribution and assures their quality is to be at least as good as its own products. This does mean a welcome trend of third party developers starting to work for our platform, proving their competenct and building upon it.
Cesar will do the SD45, he already has a GP 30, a FA, the Superliners and the DDA40X to his credit.
... will do the Centipede and has the Acela to his credit.

There already are a few competent builders amongst our posters, Eyein has a few models to his credit. SMM has his first model out.
Both have more engines in the works and there are engines WIP by others already announced and being worked upon.
Would we like to see any of these builders being contracted by RSC or would we like them to remain independent and more responsive to customer wishes?
I suppose for the builders in question it is a much a business decision, but I do hope there will be no duplicate efforts a la IHH where almost every UK RSC Diesel is done all over by a third party. That seems like a waste of effort and talent to me, besides the extra cost if you want to purchase the so called "better" model. With cooperation and sensible market decisions more different rolling stock can be produced instead of more of the same.

Hope this makes sense, it's getting late and I have made an uncommonly large number of postings today.

[simer4]

Oh. My. God. I have been dreaming of this day.

[Csxgp38-2]

I love the way RSC isn't doing anything as far as locomotives, 3rd party often looks better and is a wider variety anyways, so why not just have 3rd party do all the locomotives? Makes sense to me.

[PapaXpress]

They are doing the SW10.

[TVRRMAN]

Thanks.

I believe PRR ordered Baldwin "Baby Face" 6 axle units for passenger service. They have the same nose and cab windows, hence my confusion.

I'm going to have to place a few corrections and annotations here. In an earlier post, the question came up about the paint scheme and whether or not these units were delivered as Tuscan or DGLE?

From the pictures and research I've done of them (Broadway Limited Imports has these behemoths modeled in HO Scale, and so I decided to learn a bit about them.)

As built and delivered in 1947-1948, the Baldwin Centipedes were geared for passenger service and packed 6000 HP Per drawbar equipped A-A Set (3000 HP Per unit). They were delivered in the early passenger livery of DGLE with five pinstripes. They were classed as BP60 at this time.
According to the documents I've read, reliability issues and the completion of orders to EMD for E7s and E8s bumped them down to secondary mail and express trains for a while, before they were bumped from this assignment. From there, the units were taken into the shops, re-geared for freight service, and had their Horsepower ratings dropped from 6000 to 5000 per set (By removal of turbochargers), and assigned as helpers on Horseshoe curve. The class designation was changed this time to BH50. For the most part, when re-geared, units also received the single stripe DGLE freight scheme. They were also tried unsuccessfully working the humps at Pitcairn Yard.

Now, onto the Babyface comment: The CNJ and NYC were the only roads (I'm aware of) to order the Babyface design. All of the PRR's RF16's, DR4-4-15, and BP20's were built to the "shark" design with styling done by Industrial Designer Raymond Loewy. The Baldwin products seem to have lasted (according to printed copies of the PRR Motive power rosters) up until 1962.

The Centipedes were truly unique machines, and a milestone for their time.

[OldProf]

I love the way RSC isn't doing anything as far as locomotives, 3rd party often looks better and is a wider variety anyways, so why not just have 3rd party do all the locomotives? Makes sense to me.

Because they've become attached to being slammed everytime they introduce a new in-house DLC?

[Csxgp38-2]

Because they've become attached to being slammed everytime they introduce a new in-house DLC?

Yeah, so it seems logical that they'd just move the blame by switching to contracting other companies people like.

[SMMDigital]

I love the way RSC isn't doing anything as far as locomotives, 3rd party often looks better and is a wider variety anyways, so why not just have 3rd party do all the locomotives? Makes sense to me.

Because they've become attached to being slammed everytime they introduce a new in-house DLC?

Or maybe it's because they are so out of touch with the Commoners that they have no idea what they should be making to satisfy the demand. A Centipede. Fracking really?! How many of those have you seen in California, or Georiga, or Montana, or even Tennessee?

And to address an even earlier post, I think you are seeing a mild explosion of third-party DLC because we are fed up with waiting for RSC to make them. Cab Forward for SP, SD40T-2 for Donner Pass, K4, Centipede, and GG1 for Pennsy. F40 for Amtrak. You know, if RSC was making locomotives that most if not all railroads used, like GP40s, U Boats, Dash 7' s, and Alcos, there probably wouldn't be so much griping everytime that a loco is released.

[dcushing]

I've seen just as many Centipedes as I have K4s, yet I don't remember any negative comments when they announced that. Remember, they do have a route that the centipedes were very much at home on, and I say the more Pennsy equipment, the merrier. I just hope someone will reskin into the single stripe freight version.

Duncan

[styckx]

The Centipede has to be one of the biggest "why?" DLCs I've ever seen them throw out there.. I've never seen it requested by anyone, it's not highly spoken of for those who even know about it, hardly anyone outside of a diehard train enthusiast would even know about them, it was a complete and utter piece of crap locomotive reduced to helper service at most and not a single one even still exists, Seaboard the only other American railroad that ran them doesn't even have a route for RSC to up-sell it for so.. Again.. Why would they waste money paying someone to make this?

Hey guys I know you've been all clamoring for an engine that looks great at the end of your trains helping push it for a few miles well guess what? WE GOT YOU COVERED!!! YOU"RE WELCOME!!

[harryadkins]

I think the centipede will be a super addition to the HSC route.

[BlueLight]

Well looks like the marketing guru's at RSC a have come up with another winner. Imagine, an engine that was only used on one route by one company. An engine that was designed to haul passengers relagated to help push coal trains around the Horseshoe Cureve. Just remember what P.T. Barnum once said, " There's a sucker born every minuet."