The Cardinal-Reskins and Scenario

[Marleyman]

Presume I have all USA Available Content on Steam, which of that content would be seen on the NEC Route? I was going to make a scenario or three and have no real starting point that would not look absurd if I created a scenario. I was hoping to get a mix of Freight and Passenger but even then I don't really know if that would be seen on the route.

Feel free to suggest other stock too, I may have that already.

Having the content and not using it just seems a waste to me, so creating some content with what I have is all well and good if I only play it, but I thought I would make it available too so it really wants to have some realism in the content.

Thanks.

[Marleyman]

Reading lots online and I find 'The Cardinal', I guess most of you know this stuff but I don't;

The Cardinal currently runs with a single General Electric P42DC engine, a Heritage fleet baggage car, a single Viewliner sleeping car, three (sometimes four during peak travel periods) Amfleet II long-distance coaches, and a single diner-lounge car.

So far as TS2012 is concerned this Train calls at;
Philly 30th St-Trenton rail Station-Newark Penn Station-NYC Penn Station

Sounds like an idea for a scenario to me. however, lack of USA rolling stock in TS2012 becomes very apparent.
I have the Genesis so a GE P42VIA can head the train and it looks like Amfleet AmCoach stock can sit behind that. I am guessing those in TS2012 are not Long Distance Coaches though.
The Viewliner sleeping car and Heritage fleet baggage car are an issue and I was thinking that G-TraX Lightweight Baggage and Sleeper Cars, if repainted, may pass as a suitable substitute unless anyone knows of any actual Baggage and Sleeper Cars that are available. Are there any such thing available from third party developers? I did look at the Superliner versions but they are wrong and I understand they won't have clearance on the route anyway.

Still can't find ant freight reference so I hope someone can help with that too.

[Jchillin]

Indeed, the lack of passenger stock is a major problem for this route. The G-Trax Superliners are not prototypical on the route, possibly because of clearance issues. Repainting G-Trax coaches (and some Amfleet) coaches into NJT and SEPTA livery would go a long way to solving this problem.

Freight is not a problem. Just north of Newark Penn is Port Newark. This is where a huge amount of container freight is loaded/unloaded for shipping. There are plenty of freight assets available that could serve the task and you have differing time periods to choose from (Penn Central, Conrail, etc).

[Marleyman]

Painting the GP9 into Norfolk Southern Livery for this however, is that Black or a really dark blue base colour?

Also found a bit about Freight on NEC on the forum here; viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3025

[ATSF3814]

Actually, I did a Norfolk Southern GP9 a little while back:

http://railworksamerica.com/FileLibrary/RW2/2011/RollingStock-September-2011.html?zoom_highlight=norfolk+southern+gp9

[Marleyman]

I searched by 'GP9' and Norfolk Southern and never found it. I even skimmed through page by page. I am almost one with my one now as well. :)

Then finding a real life image on internet wasn't too easy either which is why I am asking about the colour.

[_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha]

Yes, it is a pity there is so few passenger stock. But is there sufficient interest to warrant commercial content?

You do know about the PRR P70 coaches, suitable for anything up to the 50's, perhaps early 70's in subordinate service?
There are several PRR Broadway Limited passenger cars in the making. But these belong behing K4's, E-units and GG1's

What we really need are those boxy commuter EMU's that run on the outer tracks. Even an stainless steel/light metallic gray British DMU can stand in with an appropriate scheme and some imagination.

I for one, would like to know what runs on those Newark Penn Station upper tracks. I believe some kind of NYC metro extension, but if you scale that up just a little, you can probably run repainted British 3rd rail EMU's on a fixed, repeating schedule all day long. Just to liven up the NEC, one of the busiest corridors in the US.

It cannot be all Toasters and m'Cans with the odd Acela thrown in, can it?
Then again, many scenarios of the NEC are already hampered by large amounts of AI traffic, most notably in the notorious Acela Express where there are almost 120 consists on track all at once. Even though these consist of only 20 different pieces of rolling stock, RW3 has to keep track of all to them.

There should also be really rusty bridges over Newark Penn Stations southern platform ends, I believe the remains of a former CNJ main line still visible in Google Earth but vanished from the tranportation map.

Final question: what became of the Metroliners, those self propelling Am'Cans of the 80's, capable of 125 MpH?

[thecanadianrail]

basicaly you will see the P42DC pulling the amfleet cars, the Acela, and that AEM-1 thingy driving around for amtrak, but you would need some repaints to make it prototypical. short freights were common on that one section of the line, mostly intermodal and boxcars. (although i can't remember if it is NS or CSX who has trackage rights for this section on the NEC???

[Marleyman]

From what my Scottish eyes can find it is NS that run the freight but it is suggested that this is done mostly if not exclusively at night.

[Marleyman]

My GP9

NS GP9.JPG

The One I used for reference

GP9r.jpg

[_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha]

From what my Scottish eyes can find it is NS that run the freight but it is suggested that this is done mostly if not exclusively at night.

Black on black also.

The Rahway valley area had quite some industry once, but probably most of this has vansished or moved with the global shift of economics.
There are still quite some industries with rail access left, in Linden for example or north of Newark. I must say I have so far never ventured off the assigned tracks, yet there are many branches, yards and spurs that connect to the mainline. Sometimes quite awkwardly from the operational point of view.

Wasn't there initially a warning from RSC that no tracks outside of the mainline should be run over because they were not meant for operation but rather for decoration? Some tracks used in the GG1 scenarios relased later indeed are not well laid.

Edit: I like that GP9. Rebuilt with paper air filters, but bell still on long hood, the "F" as well, so probably a N&W/SOU original still running long hood forwards. A dual control stand unit would come in handy for this kind of duty however, so perhaps? Notice that sand spilled over the deck of the otherwise spotless unit.

[Marleyman]

I hope not, I was looking forward to making some freight runs for this. I thought 'The cardinal' and two freight runs as a 'mini free pack' would be nice.

[Marleyman]

So many errors with the first re-skin here is a new one. Used the Canadian National as a base this time and put the nose Logo on the correct way round too.

NS GP9 r.JPG

[Jchillin]

I for one, would like to know what runs on those Newark Penn Station upper tracks. I believe some kind of NYC metro extension, but if you scale that up just a little, you can probably run repainted British 3rd rail EMU's on a fixed, repeating schedule all day long. Just to liven up the NEC, one of the busiest corridors in the US.

That would be the PATH system. It's basically a commuter line from Newark Penn to either 34th St. or WTC.

An amazing oddity about this line is although it's a "commuter" line, it is treated and managed as a railroad.

When riding the line from Newark to Journal Square, you get to see Port Newark in all it's glory.

The Metroliner name still exists as far as I know.

[Marleyman]

Amtrak Baggage Car or a good substitute for one I believe.

TS2012 Amtrak Baggage Car.JPG