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Re: Trainsimulator 2012

Unread postby Toonces » Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:53 am

The update process must have deleted something. The game for me wouldn't play until I verified the cache again..
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Re: Trainsimulator 2012

Unread postby UPSD70ACe » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:23 am

How do I verify the Cache,Mine won't work either? !!bang!! **!!bang!!**
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Re: Trainsimulator 2012

Unread postby Hawk » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:25 am

Fire up Steam (not RailWorks) and right click on Train Simulator 2012, then select Properties.
Under the LOCAL FILES tab click on VERIFY INTEGRITY OF GAME CACHE...
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Re: Trainsimulator 2012

Unread postby UPSD70ACe » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:52 am

Man takes a long time I'm at 9% Valadating so is this updating like as of downloading or what? !**conf**! !*don-know!* !*hp*! !!bang!!
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Re: Trainsimulator 2012

Unread postby Hawk » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:04 pm

It's checking all of the files in the Steam directory and all sub-directories, and updating if necessary.

Considering there's over 41,000 files, plus taking into account your internet connection, it can take a while.
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Re: Trainsimulator 2012

Unread postby Machinist » Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:49 pm

Despite of all tutorials for adjusting TS2012 (I've read and tested each one), I'm very bad impressed with the performance of TSX in low/medium specs machines, like mines.
In my Dual Core notebook (sound and video built-in, on motherboard), in BSB route, for example:
1) TSX OFF: 19-21 FPS, CPU overall and average usage: 60%;
2) TSX ON: 10-12 FPS (using FRAPS), CPU 32% (using less cpus?!?!). if I turn headlight on, FPS drops to 4-6.

In my Dual Core desktop (Audigy and G-Force 9600 1MB):
1) TSX OFF: 27-29 FPS, CPU 55% (slightly better then with RW2);
2) TSX ON: 17-19 FPS, CPU 55%. If loco Headlight is on: 10 FPS.

TSX is a compulsive and abominable FPS eater....
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Re: Trainsimulator 2012

Unread postby jamiee » Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:32 pm

Well I swapped out my AMD Radeon HD6990 + HD6970 Tri-Fire (CrossfireX) cards last week
for a pair of ASUS Matrix GTX 580 platinum cards in SLI.

All I can say is.... !*brav*! !*YAAA*! !*brav*! !*YAAA*! !*brav*! !*YAAA*!

What a difference in performance!
Where I was struggling to get 30-ish FPS with the AMD cards (and a very stuttery 30FPS @ that),
I'm easily averaging 50-60 smooth FPS now. TS2012 as a whole is much more playable and enjoyable.
This is with high/custom settings + 8xMSAA/16x Texture filtering and everything turned up to max in game @ 2560x1440 res.

Next up is to start moving the Anti-Aliasing slider further to the right (Tho I do expect this to kill performance rather quickly).
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Re: Trainsimulator 2012

Unread postby MugHug » Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:30 pm

jamiee wrote:Well I swapped out my AMD Radeon HD6990 + HD6970 Tri-Fire (CrossfireX) cards last week
for a pair of ASUS Matrix GTX 580 platinum cards in SLI.

All I can say is.... !*brav*! !*YAAA*! !*brav*! !*YAAA*! !*brav*! !*YAAA*!

What a difference in performance!
Where I was struggling to get 30-ish FPS with the AMD cards (and a very stuttery 30FPS @ that),
I'm easily averaging 50-60 smooth FPS now. TS2012 as a whole is much more playable and enjoyable.
This is with high/custom settings + 8xMSAA/16x Texture filtering and everything turned up to max in game @ 2560x1440 res.

Next up is to start moving the Anti-Aliasing slider further to the right (Tho I do expect this to kill performance rather quickly).


I wonder how your PC would perform with just one 580?

My CPU is a 4.5ghz o/c i5-2500K.


For me the two 460s in SLI only load about 55% and give about same FPS as a single 460.
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Re: Trainsimulator 2012

Unread postby jamiee » Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:12 pm

For me the two 460s in SLI only load about 55% and give about same FPS as a single 460.


Are you sure you enabled both SLI and also set a profile for TS2012?
The reason I ask is because enabling SLI alone won't do you much good.
In fact TS2012 will essentially be running on one card only.

I ran my 580's like this for a couple of days, then created a proper SLI profile for the game.
The difference is quite noticeable.

Before creating an SLI profile my upper FPS were around 45-50.
After creating the profile, the upper FPS jumped to around 75.
It has also helped to pull up and stabilize my mid and lower FPS.
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Re: Trainsimulator 2012

Unread postby krellnut » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:36 am

Would you mind explaining how to set a profile for SLI for Nvidia cards please.
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Re: Trainsimulator 2012

Unread postby AzureWX » Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:17 pm

I'm excited, I've managed to squeeze 17FPS out of Railworks with TSX disabled, which is good enough for me until I can upgrade to a newer computer. Gives me a good excuse to stick to scenario building and tweaking the routes I have already instead of diving into DLC, I just hope the US Commuter Pack is still around when I manage to upgrade to a computer that can handle it.
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Re: Trainsimulator 2012

Unread postby Toripony » Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:18 pm

Machinist wrote:Despite of all tutorials for adjusting TS2012 (I've read and tested each one), I'm very bad impressed with the performance of TSX in low/medium specs machines, like mines.
In my Dual Core notebook (sound and video built-in, on motherboard), in BSB route, for example:
1) TSX OFF: 19-21 FPS, CPU overall and average usage: 60%;
2) TSX ON: 10-12 FPS (using FRAPS), CPU 32% (using less cpus?!?!). if I turn headlight on, FPS drops to 4-6.

In my Dual Core desktop (Audigy and G-Force 9600 1MB):
1) TSX OFF: 27-29 FPS, CPU 55% (slightly better then with RW2);
2) TSX ON: 17-19 FPS, CPU 55%. If loco Headlight is on: 10 FPS.

TSX is a compulsive and abominable FPS eater....


Ahhh... concise info! What locomotive did you test with and what route/scenario exactly? I am at the same conclusion as you with one caveat... I think it's only the new routes and/or locos that are this bad. With TSX ON I'm getting better performance on my RW2-built Alleghany route with RW2-built SD40-2's than on the new optimized routes with the new optimized locos. With identical equipment on identical scenario action, TS12 with TSX ON runs the Alleghany at just about half the FPS as RW2 (25-30 vs. 50-60)(headlights on). Do you have any results to support my theory?
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Re: Trainsimulator 2012

Unread postby jamiee » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:16 pm

krellnut wrote:Would you mind explaining how to set a profile for SLI for Nvidia cards please.


Here you go:

1. Using Nvidia Control Panel select "Manage 3D Settings" tab and create new program settings for "railworksproc2.exe".
This can be found under: (C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\railworks)
(Note: the instillation directory may be a little different depending on where and what drive you have your copy of STEAM/TS2012 installed).

2. Change the "SLI rendering mode" setting to "Force alternative frame rendering 2".

That's it, yer good to go :)
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Re: Trainsimulator 2012

Unread postby Machinist » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:15 am

Toripony wrote:Ahhh... concise info! What locomotive did you test with and what route/scenario exactly? I am at the same conclusion as you with one caveat... I think it's only the new routes and/or locos that are this bad. With TSX ON I'm getting better performance on my RW2-built Alleghany route with RW2-built SD40-2's than on the new optimized routes with the new optimized locos. With identical equipment on identical scenario action, TS12 with TSX ON runs the Alleghany at just about half the FPS as RW2 (25-30 vs. 50-60)(headlights on). Do you have any results to support my theory?

Hi Toriponi, what I noticed is that RW2 routes are running better now (with RW3 TSX Off) than with RW2 engine. In my report I was running the new SD40-2 in Barstow to San Bernardino route, in a scenario pack I am writing. In fact my low/medium specs machines are not permiting to run any TS2012 new routes and assets with TSX On above 10-12 fps, so for now I gave up playing them (BTW TS12 is the official nickname of Trainz version LOL).
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Re: Trainsimulator 2012

Unread postby Importz2k1 » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:30 am

jamiee wrote:Well I swapped out my AMD Radeon HD6990 + HD6970 Tri-Fire (CrossfireX) cards last week
for a pair of ASUS Matrix GTX 580 platinum cards in SLI.

All I can say is.... !*brav*! !*YAAA*! !*brav*! !*YAAA*! !*brav*! !*YAAA*!

What a difference in performance!
Where I was struggling to get 30-ish FPS with the AMD cards (and a very stuttery 30FPS @ that),
I'm easily averaging 50-60 smooth FPS now. TS2012 as a whole is much more playable and enjoyable.
This is with high/custom settings + 8xMSAA/16x Texture filtering and everything turned up to max in game @ 2560x1440 res.

Next up is to start moving the Anti-Aliasing slider further to the right (Tho I do expect this to kill performance rather quickly).


Seems to be that people are getting better results with NVIDIA cards rather than ATI.
Unfortunately for me, I don't have the cash to drop on one GTX 580 let alone two of them. So my question is I have an ATI 6950, if I get another and crossfire it, will I see any differance in performance? Or would I be simply wasting my time and money?
I am a little upset by the fact that one has to spend $1100.00 on video cards to get decent FPS and performance with this game.
My old pc wasn't running RW2 very good, choppy and stuttering. So I built this one and it handled RW2 just fine. RW3 comes out and I'm back to having the same crappy performance again. I love the game, but I don't even want to play it anymore. !*not-ok*!


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