Problems signalling on a double crossover switch

[straypacket]

I've been working on a route for a few years, and although I did have lots of signal rework to do because of the 64 bit World Editor problem, things have been working well since DTG fixed the issue and I re-signalled the route.

However, yesterday I noticed that I was not able to get signals to work properly when signalling a 4-way switch layout (e.g. create a crossover using the crossover tool in the track editor, and then click the grey cube to create the opposing crossover).

I've tried several variants of the basic US signals and nothing seems to work. I am almost certain that I've done this before - however I do not recall testing the signalling.

Is there a trick to getting this to work? Do I need custom signals?

Thanks!

[buzz456]

I'm pretty sure there is a tutorial in the learning center by Piker that addresses that very issue.

[straypacket]

I'm pretty sure there is a tutorial in the learning center by Piker that addresses that very issue.

Hi Buzz - I looked at the track plan pike hiker used in the video series and there were no double-slip switches or double-crossover switches, unfortunately.

I'm looking through youtube at the video series' by cactusjuice and spatialkatana - so far nothing relevant.

I also tried a double-slip switch - with the same results. I looked at New York - New Haven and they definitely have a few double-slips in the route. I used the same signals as NYNH on my double-slip test and it still did not work.

I will post anything I find.

Thank you!

[BoostedFridge]

I also tried a double-slip switch - with the same results. I looked at New York - New Haven and they definitely have a few double-slips in the route. I used the same signals as NYNH on my double-slip test and it still did not work.

Post a screenshot from your route editor showing the switch overview, with the signal highlighted so that your link placement is visible.

[minerman146]

I have this problem in Hoboken and I think so did DTG. I suspect and also see micro-track breaks on the double-slips. I thought it was because default track rules are 100m minimum and the outer parts of the slips are, in fact, curves. I thought a 15m minimum radius track rule would fix this.

Any way here is my

[straypacket]

Post a screenshot from your route editor showing the switch overview, with the signal highlighted so that your link placement is visible.

Here is a link to an imgur.com album where I'll post screenshots for this thread. There are now 4 images showing link 0, then links 1-6 of a 4-way crossover switch arrangement. I also tried to show the track ribbon splits/welds as best as I could.

I can also post the double-slip test route images if you'd like - but I'd be happy for the moment if I can get the 4-way arrangement working.

https://imgur.com/a/kzQ3HJH

[straypacket]

I have this problem in Hoboken and I think so did DTG. I suspect and also see micro-track breaks on the double-slips. I thought it was because default track rules are 100m minimum and the outer parts of the slips are, in fact, curves. I thought a 15m minimum radius track rule would fix this.

Any way here is my

Do you know where DTG ran into this issue? Were you able to work around the signalling in Hoboken (and which route is that in)?

Thank you!

[minerman146]

I have this problem in Hoboken and I think so did DTG. I suspect and also see micro-track breaks on the double-slips. I thought it was because default track rules are 100m minimum and the outer parts of the slips are, in fact, curves. I thought a 15m minimum radius track rule would fix this.

Any way here is my

Do you know where DTG ran into this issue? Were you able to work around the signalling in Hoboken (and which route is that in)?

Thank you!

I believe they did as well because you get no greens though the slips on the Jersey Coastline Route. At best you get yellow. On my route, I had to place markers immediately before and after the slips so that I could path trains. Otherwise, they would avoid the slips. Go look at your tracks on these switches you will see a small seam on one rail. I wasn't able to solve it by relaying, I did try a custom track rule with the 15m radius, that, if I remember correctly, worked, but I lost the frogs.

My route? The New York Division - Bergen Line in the workshop. If you have ever seen screen shots of Hoboken with wooden ties - that's my route. DTG's has all concrete ties.

[straypacket]

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My route? The New York Division - Bergen Line in the workshop. If you have ever seen screen shots of Hoboken with wooden ties - that's my route. DTG's has all concrete ties.

I'll check out your route - thank you for the info. I will look for the slip switches on Bergen Line and see if I can devise a solution for my route.