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GE 44T, Erie

Unread postby RudiJaeger » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:49 pm

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I can't say I know a lot about Eastern roads, but like many in our community, I thoroughly enjoy running The Minermen's Bergen Route. The route is certainly above and beyond payware-quality IMO, but they don't ask a dime for all the work they do. So these repaints are just a little pay-back for all the enjoyment they bring, and for fellow enthusiasts of the Bergen. I realize the Erie logo may be a little early for the Bergen's current time period, but I've seen mention in another thread that there may be a retro-version in the future, so it may eventually come in handy: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=20711

It's my understanding that #26 was the only 44-Tonner operated by the Erie, so I'll do versions featuring both the Erie and EL logos with static-numbers; and if I still have some gas in the tank, perhaps a little surprise for the switching duties in the Hoboken vicinity ...but that's literally an "iron horse of a different color", which will require yet another template build; so no promises yet.

As I was piecing together the prototype photos for this post, I noticed the Erie logo is a little small, compared to the actual one in the b/w photo. That's because I built it using the EL logo in the color photo as a reference. So I'll need to re-build, as up-sizing an image doesn't come out as crisp as down-sizing. The heralds I had on hand were not very crisp, and I could not find an exact match for the Erie font; so I had to create some Franken-fonts, to get the proportions close to the prototype. I only mention, because when I started on this one, I thought "Oh it's just a little black loco with a couple of stripes; this is going to be an easy one, probably have it finished in a couple of hours" ..(insert laughter from more experienced painters here) *!lol!*

Anyway, I've been tinkering with the alpha layers to reduce the shine and think it's just about there, so I'll need to apply to the remaining textures for consistency. The paint chipping and rust effects were fun to do, and I had to remove several chips, as it was beginning to look like a camouflage pattern.

Again, I'm not an Eastern road guy, so if any of you "Erie Fans" have any recommendations, recollections, or general info; your comments are certainly welcome. Thanks! !!howdy!!

Ooops! Almost forgot; it's for the Boston & Maine 44-Tonner: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2225 ... oco_AddOn/
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Re: GE 44T, Erie

Unread postby minerman146 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:09 pm

Geez Louise Rudy ! Thank you … your work is really nice … I don't know what to say.
Well - I think this might result in an interesting and complex side project. You can read about it here: http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/indloco/errhs.html
So there is one other unit! hahahaahha. There is an Erie One (26) and a Lackawanna one (51) and that's its. 26 was out in Ohio and 51 was right here in New Yawk in da Bronx! It could and would and will be used anywhere on the route!

Just an amazing thing to see... and to have.
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Re: GE 44T, Erie

Unread postby RudiJaeger » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:17 pm

Minerman, I'm happy you guys like it; I'm doing my best to ensure it's Bergen-worthy !!*ok*!! ..and many thanks for the link, it's just the kind of input I was looking for; in fact, I even saw where number 26 was one of four various switchers assigned to Harlem Station, so it must have been transferred there at some point in it's career with the Erie. I also discovered a site listing not only one, but three additional 44-Tonners belonging to the EL (51,52, 53): http://www.geocities.ws/r_dobrowolski/el44t.html ..although it only lists #53 as being assigned to the Harlem Station facility, so not sure how accurate the info is; you mentioned #51 being there as well, so the more the merrier. If I can find photos of them, I may do 51 and 53 as well; or maybe just free-lance them, since I doubt their paint would have been all that different from #26 in the general scheme of things.

The site also features an additional color photo of #26 which confirmed the use of two different shades of yellow, which I previously thought was merely an anomaly with the color photo I posted. So all the stripes and safety-rails received a new lemon-yellow coat of paint, while the Erie herald and numerals remained the same; although the more I study the photos, I'll probably brighten the lemon-yellow a bit, to compensate for the in-sim lighting. I also resized the Erie herald to match the photos, and added some more safety-stencils, to include the service-date on the trucks. Also changed the font for the "F" indicating the front of the loco; which by the way, made me realize that the builder's plate and stencils are on the wrong side of the frame when compared to the photos.
As Gilda Radner once said on SNL, "It justa goes to show ya, it's always sumth'n" !**duh*!! ...

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Thanks again! ..Back to the drawing board. !!howdy!!
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Re: GE 44T, Erie

Unread postby RudiJaeger » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:18 am

Come to find out; the builder's plate is on the correct side; I just had the decals on the wrong ends ...geesh! how could that happen? *!lol!*

Adjusted the hue to get a deeper black to align better with the photos, and a few minor adjustments (omit decals, etc) to achieve the over-all pre-1960 look. Then sent this lumber yard on the Bergen through the way-back machine to set the stage for the completion screens:

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The EL version is next...
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Re: GE 44T, Erie

Unread postby minerman146 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:44 pm

Rudy,
Been following along here with your project. Last nights response disappeared due to RWA going offline at 910pm. I get to doing research on the route, and probably a few years ago, saw the 44 tonner, did some more research and wound up at 149th Street in the Bronx. After your post, I though that I should check out the place on the route. I spent some time to 'do a little sumptin" there on the route. Ill take a shot and try to make something happen at that particular location for fun.

Oh, also, the fine detail on this unit is really eye catching. Im looking forward to seeing this in game tooling around the Bergen!
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Re: GE 44T, Erie

Unread postby RudiJaeger » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:06 pm

Thanks Minerman! I was in the same vicinity last night, taking some shots of number-26 with the EL logo and safety stencils; and just a speck more rust since it's Erie days:

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On to the next one... !!howdy!!

Oh, speaking of which, I did find some pics of the Lackawanna units; but still debating if I should include them, as they have what appears to be a distinctive headlamp, possibly customized in their home shops. It's not a big difference, but it's noticeable; although I suppose it wouldn't be the first repaint to deviate from the prototype because of the restrictions of the 3D model. I'll see what happens with the template, as I'd really like to include the Lackawanna units for historical completeness. Cheers!
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Re: GE 44T, Erie

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Re: GE 44T, Erie

Unread postby RudiJaeger » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:23 am

Thanks ET, much appreciated !!howdy!!

After studying the photos more closely, it appears the Lackawanna units' "custom headlamps", were simply a visor placed over the lens to reduce upward glare, which seems appropriate for city-ops. The locos' numbers were stenciled on each side of the visor as well. I can't post any pics due to copyrights, but the visors are similar to those of a traffic light, only angled rather than curved. Anyway, I don't want to stop progress due to this little detail, so I'll at least do number-53 as there are reference photos of it wearing three different liveries. More to follow...
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Re: GE 44T, Erie

Unread postby RudiJaeger » Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:02 pm

The three faces of 53; Lackawanna, Erie Lackawanna, and Harlem Transfer Company:

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Re: GE 44T, Erie

Unread postby minerman146 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:10 pm

I cant believe I am seeing these units - just wow. Now, I need to get cracking on the postage stamp it where it worked!
!*brav*!
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Re: GE 44T, Erie

Unread postby RudiJaeger » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:22 pm

Looking forward to what you come up with Minerman !!*ok*!!

The "little surprise" I eluded to in the introductory post, was going to be a version for the Hoboken Shore RR; but as the screenshot shows, the grill area becomes a virtual jig-saw puzzle when viewed from an angle, and could take some considerable time to solve (if it's even possible, i.e; double-mapping and such):

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The good news is; the current repaints are uploaded and should be available in next library update. I was considering squeezing-in four more sets to cover EL 51 and 52, but since they all look alike except for the numbers, and my ISP's Techie is going to do some "upgrades" tomorrow; I needed to get the current progress to the library, just in case I'm off the net for a while.
Cheers! !!howdy!!
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Re: GE 44T, Erie

Unread postby jamesphh » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:46 pm

Can the required files needed be provided from the UP 44T instead of the B&M 44T?
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Re: GE 44T, Erie

Unread postby RudiJaeger » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:35 pm

jamesphh wrote:Can the required files needed be provided from the UP 44T instead of the B&M 44T?

You probably could if you swap-out the B&M entries in my bin files with those of the UP version. (There's a bin in each engine folder and one in each texture folder)
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Re: GE 44T, Erie

Unread postby jamesphh » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:12 pm

Thank you for the reply and info.
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Re: GE 44T, Erie

Unread postby RudiJaeger » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:30 am

No problem; please keep us posted if you get it to work, and what you did to make it so. Thanks! !!howdy!!
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