Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

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Re: Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

Unread postby ErikGorbiHamilton » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:54 pm

"If YOUR actions cause injury to YOURSELF then do not blame the railroad for YOUR stupidity!"

If I owned a railroad I would have my signal, crossing, and maintenance departments post that to EVERY grade crossing, signal, and freaking No Trespassing Sign on the system.


I watched a video on this. A lot of her co-workers are trying to leech off of her death to make a quick buck. If I could voice what I would do to scumbags like these I would say it but the forum has strict rules about what I could've said so !DUH!

Ill give a hint:

"Arbitrarily shot."

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Re: Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

Unread postby buzz456 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:51 am

It's called FaceBook.
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Re: Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

Unread postby JohnS » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:54 am

They are correct that we as train crews are not under any obligation to report trespassers to other trains. If anything, as train crews, we don't do it to because if we did report it to another crew and the receiving crew did hit someone or something then they are in trouble because they knew of something amiss in the area. It all comes down to liability and deniability.
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Re: Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

Unread postby TheTeenageFoamer » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:28 am

I saw this video a while back, I'm sure they didn't even have permission to film there to begin with, let alone filming on A TRESTLE! I mean what did they expect. The thing other people don't understand is trains do not stop like a car, it take so much longer.
I see lots of trespassers here in our yard, and I fear one day a train will come from behind a line of cars and hit one.
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Re: Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

Unread postby ET44C4 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:34 am

They did not get permission from CSX after asking, yet they still went and set up their do da knowing they didn't have permission. The fact that the family of the killed person won the court ruling is beyond me... *!mad!* They sued CSX because a family member trespassed and got killed! Are you going to go into Walmart, steal a jug of water, accidentally drop and bust the jug while exiting the store, slip and fall in the water and break your back, but then sue Walmart??? This is just like one court case I read about where a thief broke into someone's home and got injured in the process and sued the homeowner. Where is the justice in all this?!?
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Re: Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

Unread postby JOHNtheREDNECK » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:09 am

If there is money to be made people will find a way. That's American capitalism at its finest! Even lawyers gotta make money somehow and if there is a chance they can mooch off of a giant railroad corporation with a giant bank account they are going to try to take every penny they can get. Don't matter how stupid the case is.
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Re: Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

Unread postby TVRRMAN » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:04 pm

I normally don't jump in on these posts, although this is one time I felt I should chime in.

If anything, the family should have sued the film company (not the railroad) for wrongful death / injuries, as the producer was highly responsible for placing them in the situation. Facts clearly state that two requests for permission to film on CSX Company Property were denied. ET44C4: Near as far as I can tell here, there was improper justice served here. The wrong party was made into the villan (the railroad) for doing their job. Wasn't this why Operation Lifesaver exists: to educate people on railroad safety?
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Re: Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

Unread postby ZekTheKid » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:46 pm

TVRRMAN wrote:Wasn't this why Operation Lifesaver exists: to educate people on railroad safety?

Some people don't care about it because "it won't happen to them."
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Re: Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

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Re: Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

Unread postby TheTeenageFoamer » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:57 am


Sounds like his own stupidity to me. *!rolleyes!*
This is why there are "no trespassing" signs everywhere.
They probably were blowing the horn, I don't see a reason to believe him on that, considering he's suing them for his problem that he created.
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Re: Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

Unread postby AmericanSteam » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:13 pm

I boils down the the fact that CSX has the money, plenty of it and some bleeding heart jury will find for the family because of that fact and for no other reason. You can't outlaw stupidity. No sense suing the film company they don't have any money..
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Re: Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:11 am

Yeah I was involved in a deal where a worker was involved in a injury and the soul sucking lawyer was really out to get the company until they found out a Honeywell switch was involved. Instantly the blood suckers forgot all about the little company and went after the deep pockets guys. Naturally they settled for big bucks to avoid a expensive and possibly image damaging show trial.
American extortion at its worst. Unfortunately as long as the trial lawyers have our law makers bought and paid for there will be no tort reform in this country.
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Re: Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

Unread postby AmericanSteam » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:14 am

It is the unbelievable cases such as the woman who put a hot cup of coffee between her legs while driving and successfully sued McDonald's because the coffee was hot. This is why tort reform is needed. Somehow the notion of personal responsibility has been lost.
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Re: Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

Unread postby thebigroyboyski » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:09 am

Unfortunatly i can see parts of the US becoming like the UK here.
Our lines have always been fenced or walled off so that there is zero confusion over trespassing.
The local lines in my area have always had fences or small walls but lately these really ugly highly shiney 6 foot tall fences are getting put up everywhere.
Even the lightly used freight/diversion line that runs near my house has them.
Before the small wall blended into the countryside, now there is this big shining scar cutting through.
I really hope the US doesn't go down this route.
I know that it isn't needed in large parts of the system but in towns they might have to appear to protect the companies from idiots that ruin it for everyone else.
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Re: Dumb Legal Argument against CSX

Unread postby katyusha454 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:59 pm

AmericanSteam wrote:It is the unbelievable cases such as the woman who put a hot cup of coffee between her legs while driving and successfully sued McDonald's because the coffee was hot. This is why tort reform is needed. Somehow the notion of personal responsibility has been lost.


She won that suit because the coffee was so hot it caused severe burns. She was lucky it spilled on her, because if she drank it she could have ended up with serious internal injuries. McDonald's was very much at fault in that case.
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