Less than minimum requirements computer

Re: Less than minimum requirements computer

Unread postby dick8299 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:35 am

One more item:

The minimum cpu requirement is i5 at 3.2Ghz. My cpu is i5 at 3.1Ghz. I read that the dell cpu can not be overclocked. Will the lack of one tenth of a Ghz be a problem?
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Re: Less than minimum requirements computer

Unread postby buzz456 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:45 am

dick8299 wrote:One more item:

The minimum cpu requirement is i5 at 3.2Ghz. My cpu is i5 at 3.1Ghz. I read that the dell cpu can not be overclocked. Will the lack of one tenth of a Ghz be a problem?


I doubt it very much. Depending on what they do this thing would seem to be a lot more dependent on GPU capability than on the CPU but we will kind of have to wait and see.
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Re: Less than minimum requirements computer

Unread postby peterhayes » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:24 pm

PLUS
You must be running Windows OS (7, 8, 10 and even XP) as a 64-bit OS else TSW will not load or run no matter what your specs are!
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Re: Less than minimum requirements computer

Unread postby ozinoz » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:32 pm

peterhayes wrote:PLUS
You must be running Windows OS (7, 8, 10 and even XP) as a 64-bit OS else TSW will not load or run no matter what your specs are!
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Most probably are, but I can see this catching a few out too. *!rolleyes!*

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Re: Less than minimum requirements computer

Unread postby OldProf » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:14 am

Idle speculation sure does fill time while you're waiting, doesn't it?
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Re: Less than minimum requirements computer

Unread postby ex-railwayman » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:42 pm

dick8299 wrote:One more item:
The minimum cpu requirement is i5 at 3.2Ghz. My cpu is i5 at 3.1Ghz. I read that the dell cpu can not be overclocked. Will the lack of one tenth of a Ghz be a problem?

The minimum CPU requirement quoted is an i5 4690 3.2 GHz. It looks like you still use a 6 year old i5 2400 at 3.1GHz, which you may have difficulty with, however, unfortunately unless you find someone else on these forums using the exact same system as your goodself, you won't get a definitive answer, sorry.

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Re: Less than minimum requirements computer

Unread postby trev123 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:45 pm

Yes I'm sitting on the fence with this and going to wait what others experience, although my CPU can be overclocked to 4.0GHZ.
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Re: Less than minimum requirements computer

Unread postby OldProf » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:18 am

Seriously, wouldn't it be best to wait until TSW actually downloads and try running it with various settings before heading for the store?
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Re: Less than minimum requirements computer

Unread postby Ericmopar » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:21 pm

OldProf wrote:Seriously, wouldn't it be best to wait until TSW actually downloads and try running it with various settings before heading for the store?


Yes, and it's besides the fact that, it may, or may not run well, despite being UE4 based.
It may not take advantage of more than 3 or 4 cores in any case.
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Re: Less than minimum requirements computer

Unread postby peterhayes » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:42 pm

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Yes, and it's besides the fact that, it may, or may not run well, despite being UE4 based.
It may not take advantage of more than 3 or 4 cores in any case.

I agree, but if you look at DTG's Euro fishing UE4 based and 64-bit that runs very well even on my old Sandy Bridge PC.
Now to multicore - TSW won't be true multicore - I can't think of a game or program that is but it will be multicore capable, because Windows basically decides what cores are used by a program. As I've said previously DTG Fishing has similar core usage to TS 2017 and has the same memory (RAM) usage. I do not see TSW to be vastly different.
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Re: Less than minimum requirements computer

Unread postby dick8299 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:14 am

OK, I had my computer rebuilt. I added 600W PSU, NVIDEA GeForce GTX1070 GPU, SSD Hard Drive for C drive, and regular Hard Drive for S drive. I had TSW installed on the S drive and then used the Steammover program to transfer it to the SSD C drive.The CPU is Intel Core i7-2700K which is the best CPU that my old mother board would accomodate. It runs at 3.5Ghx which is faster than the recommended CPU. The game plays on my new computer, however I am having problems with FPS. When I first started taking the tutorials a couple of days ago it seems my GPS ran between 20 and 30 and I was happy, however running today my FPS is between 10 and 17. The game seems to run OK, but my not be as smooth as it should (could) be.

I am a novice working with NVIDEA GPU so I am asking for comments or advice on what I should do to improve FPS. Also I am concerned that maybe my CPU is choking the GPU. Like I said, I know nothing, so am welcome to any comments or advice that you experts out there can provide.

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Incidentally, My TS 2017 which used to run at 14 FPS on my old computer is now running 115 FPS on my rebuilt computer, so I know that the new GPU made a big difference there.
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Re: Less than minimum requirements computer

Unread postby Ericmopar » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:18 pm

dick8299 wrote:OK, I had my computer rebuilt. I added 600W PSU, NVIDEA GeForce GTX1070 GPU, SSD Hard Drive for C drive, and regular Hard Drive for S drive. I had TSW installed on the S drive and then used the Steammover program to transfer it to the SSD C drive.The CPU is Intel Core i7-2700K which is the best CPU that my old mother board would accomodate. It runs at 3.5Ghx which is faster than the recommended CPU. The game plays on my new computer, however I am having problems with FPS. When I first started taking the tutorials a couple of days ago it seems my GPS ran between 20 and 30 and I was happy, however running today my FPS is between 10 and 17. The game seems to run OK, but my not be as smooth as it should (could) be.

I am a novice working with NVIDEA GPU so I am asking for comments or advice on what I should do to improve FPS. Also I am concerned that maybe my CPU is choking the GPU. Like I said, I know nothing, so am welcome to any comments or advice that you experts out there can provide.

Thanks,
Dick8299

Incidentally, My TS 2017 which used to run at 14 FPS on my old computer is now running 115 FPS on my rebuilt computer, so I know that the new GPU made a big difference there.


It's at least partly because that GPU is being bottlenecked by the older i7.
I have a GTX 1070 that was paired originally with a i5-3570K, overclocked to 4.1Ghz and the CPU was bottlenecking the 1070.
When I built up a new motherboard with a i7-7700K at stock clocks, the bottlenecking is gone and it's a very balanced system.
My CPU and GPU both run about 70-80% at FXAA+2X2SSAA. Even routes like soldier summit run smooth now.
That of course isn't TSW, but it's a good indicator of what kind of CPU is needed to to feed the 1070s.
The GTX 1070s where built with the i5 and i7 Skylake and Kaby Lake CPUs in mind.
For anyone else that's reading this, the GTX1060s are still a good match for an older Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, Haswell setup.

I suspect there are differences in the newer motherboards that help too. The new chipsets like z170 and z270, and CPUs, support feeding the graphics cards with more memory lanes available etc.
New motherboards will have better BIOS support and instruction sets, that go with newer hardware.

While what I said is true, didn't some people say TSW was actually running worse on new hardware for some reason? !*don-know!*

Here's an example of the difference between then and now.

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Re: Less than minimum requirements computer

Unread postby cbff33 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:47 am

dick8299 wrote:I did a quick read through the posts on this topic and did not see a similar question, so I am posting this:

What happens and how will Train Sim World run if I don't have a computer that meets the minimum requirements.

My processor is Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 @3.1Ghz
My Graphics card is AMD Radeon HD 6450

I would require a new power supply to update my graphics card and I estimated the total cost at around $800

If the new Sim will run at all on my computer, I would buy it because it is only $39.99 ($35.99 if pre-ordered)


My processor is simular to yours. I tried running TSW with a GTX760 and it crashed my computer at the dovetail screen. I upgraded to a gtx1070strix, and pulled my 700w PSU from my other computer and installed it in my i5, and TSW is running decently. It has improved a small amount running update 2 beta. I have a thread going on at Steam in the technical support, providing feedback from my underpowered machine, so you can read that, and I also have posted here some finding with my machine. The 1080 strix was a 400 dollar upgrade, which I will put towards a new build this year. Your 800 dollars is waaaayyyy above what it will actually cost. You can get a good 700w + PSU for under 100 bucks easily.
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Re: Less than minimum requirements computer

Unread postby cbff33 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:51 am

buzz456 wrote:I just said that because I had a GTX960 before and tons of room. I had to move everything around to make room for the 1060 and I think all the 1000 series are about this size.
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Re: Less than minimum requirements computer

Unread postby trev123 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:46 pm

peterhayes wrote:PLUS
You must be running Windows OS (7, 8, 10 and even XP) as a 64-bit OS else TSW will not load or run no matter what your specs are!
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Yes I have wondered about this, people who say it won't start on their computer actually have a 64bit OS. Although it says on the TSW store page the you need a 64bit to run it. I wonder how many people don't read the specs ? I mentioned this on Steam and got a comment like, everyone on here knows you need a 64bit system to run it. Don't know whether they were being sarcastic or not.
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