New York Division-Bergen Line

[minerman146]

Since I changed the speed limit indicator in my blue print, I have found numerous little track issues that need resolution. I found one here in Ramsey and took advantage of the situation by relaying the track. I also customized a signal gantry as shown below. It doesn't look too bad.

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[ErikGorbiHamilton]

Since I changed the speed limit indicator in my blue print, I have found numerous little track issues that need resolution. I found one here in Ramsey and took advantage of the situation by relaying the track. I also customized a signal gantry as shown below. It doesn't look too bad.

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That signal looks intriguing! Are those supposed to be stand ins for Bracket Masts?

[NStrains]

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[minerman146]

*Route Update*
Route Update Number 144
New York Division-Bergen Line 9.8.4a: Woodbury

New Scenery Central Valley, NY. By Request for Creutz-Wald: Bi-Directional Signals for Track 2 only, Hillburn to NJ

Fixes:
Track and Signal Correction East of Ramsey Rt17, Signal Correction Suffern yard, SF and Suffern Station. Relay Track at the Rockland/Bergen County line. LOD Reduction, Asset Reduction: Secaucus and Croxton. Reduce custom 3 part Trailer Asset from LOD 10 to LOD 2.

*Clickbait for mmss1*

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*Route Update Preview Shot*

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And that is what we got for this week!

[jamesphh]

You still have some issues with signals.
One I ran across is at Ridgeway Jct.
When looking at the right had fly out, the 'limited aspect boxes are not checked for links 2 and 3.
This causes the signal to show only the top signal to be green regardless of the path.
This may also be true for other signals.
Also, the signal speed is set to 25 mph.
This causes the speed to be 25 mph thru the entire jct. (link zero to the next opposing signal link zero) not just at the crossover.
Also, setting signal speed does not show in the HUD, resulting in a speeding penalty.
If the track speed is less than the signal speed the lower speed prevails.
NOTE: I checked off the 'limited aspect' boxes as they were blank in the route.

[minerman146]

jamesphh,
My project was to clear off all settings on all signals. In particular, to remove the speed setting. You found, what I hope is the last signal set with a speed limit on the route. But the Limited Aspect, it is brilliant that you pointed that out. I did some testing yesterday in Suffern and had to put in the Limited Aspect setting for the reason you point out. You found, what I hope is the last signal set with a speed limit on the route.

Question: So, going forward, may I set the limited aspect on all signals that have divergence?

I can have this ready to go for the Friday Update. If you are eager to see the changes, I can load up the changes by midnight.

The explanation of how the speed settings work in that depth was really needed. I was guessing how it worked from signal to signal. Lastly, Ridgewood has always been a challenge because of the speed changes. I would be great to have it working like it should and done.
Thank you,
MM

[minerman146]

I didn't know I was going to be talking about signals today. But, what I had planned talking about was a potential consignee in Central Valley. As you know, West of Suffern has just one customer, Nepera, in Harriman. But I had been looking for 2 others in Central Valley NY, they are referenced in my time table. The first is the Cooney Brothers and the second is Gold Bond. About two weeks ago, working on scenery I found tracks to a warehouse via imagery and figured, as the building in on 17 Bond St., that it was Gold Bond. On the route, you can see the siding track that I installed in Central Valley, I have it as it appears today. The last section that would connect to main is gone. I was thinking this might be interesting for scenarios to spot cars both at Gold Bond and Nepera, I have some other photographs that show an EL SW2 and Caboose with a few freight cars near CY. This may be what was used to handle local freight, I have no idea where it was stationed. Perhaps road units handled the work out of Suffern or Middletown. I will confer with my lead EL consultant and see what he says.

So I have the track via imagery then I needed to find out what went there. Below are the results of my research. I have a nice shot of a boxcar from 1965 and 1964 article from the New York Times that mentions this warehouse. So, it shows up on my 1974 timetable, anyone interested in having this siding active again? I always appreciate your input.

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Gold Bond Stamp Company
Central Valley, NY

The Gold Bond Stamp Company was founded in 1938 by what is now known as Carlson Companies. The stamps were offered as an incentive program through many grocery stores throughout the United States. The stamps were meant to be organized into sets called "books" before redeeming them, which encouraged the trading of duplicates among collectors

July 16, 1964 (New York Times)
A one-story building in Cen¬tral Valley, N. Y., has been ac¬quired by the Gold Bond Stamp Company of Minneapolis for a distribution center. The 100,000¬square-foot structure, which is near the Harriman exit of the York Thruway, was built by the Murray Construction Company. The sale was ar¬ranged by the Louis Schlesinger Company of Newark.

*Side Note* As you can most certainly tell, I am more interested in reproducing the past than I am the present. Please bear with me, this is what is motivating me to finish this route. I blend in the old with the new and hope it doesn't look too bad.

[jamesphh]

Yes, checking the boxes for links 2,3,etc should get the signals to show correct aspects.
Checking link one seems to have no effect.
Also note that due to something in the TS core sometime the aspect is not exactly as expected.
In the example both diverge to track 3 and track 2 show the same aspect. (Third signal head shows green).
I also have no idea what 'approach control' does.
This was done by trail and error as I can find no info on this signal type from TS.
You may also have signal speeds set past the S curve on entrance to a yard.

You may also want to look at the start of the 3 track section just past Hillbirn Yard. The is no signal protect a jct of track one. The is a nearby signal a 1 head zero link.
Replacing this with a 1 head 1 link should give protection to the jct.
In the previous post I stated that the signal speed went from zink zero to the opposing signal link zero.
That is not correct.
It goes from link zero to link 1, or 2 or 3, etc.

[jamesphh]

At Waldwick the signals are not responding. I did notice that there is a bad turnout into the yard. Do not know if this is cause of signal failure or not.
Looks ok in 2 =D map but not on signal heads. All heads remain red except a straight thru path.

[minerman146]

At Waldwick the signals are not responding. I did notice that there is a bad turnout into the yard. Do not know if this is cause of signal failure or not.
Looks ok in 2 =D map but not on signal heads. All heads remain red except a straight thru path.

James, I decided to work the Ridgewood Issue first. Though it has been reworked, it was never fully replaced. I am going to blow that away and relay it, so I can be sure I have no track breaks, and then refresh the signals. Waldwick has had issues in the past because of micro-breaks in the rail and some "ghost" track from all the other times it was worked. I have tested ingress and egress out of Waldwick yard in the past and had signal, the limited aspect setting may have not been placed there. I will review it again, then repair or replace as needed and see how that goes.

MM

[minerman146]

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[NStrains]

These two locomotives sure look great on the Bergen Line!

The first shot is my favorite spot on the northern end of the line.

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PS Minerman, I think the clearance of the bridge in the first shot needs reworked. I noticed on the inside of the curve it interferes with auto racks.

[buzz456]

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I will award you a gold star for this great WIP. You are doing awesome work.

[jalsina]

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I will award you a gold star for this great WIP. You are doing awesome work.

+1
This route has a very good shape by now.

[minerman146]

Total Side Note: Do I get a cookie of something for having 50,000 views? Or is that a not really big number? Does this mean I need to send money to cover all the bandwidth for my pictures?

I will award you a gold star for this great WIP. You are doing awesome work.

I will take that gold star! Now, if you have a strawberry blond star that looks like Ann Margaret .... you just put a nice shot of that right here for number 50k!