New York Division-Bergen Line

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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:36 pm

The Bergen continues it's march to Hoboken. Decisions, Decisions - put in Harmon Cove and do the 1970s or keep going current day.
Until then, we are pleased to announce that we have scenery to the Western shores of the mighty (smelly) Hackensack River.
Below is the recently reworked HX Draw for your edification!

And as with everything else on the Bergen Line - this is custom work, not a custom asset, made by using parts from existing DLC - Sherman Hill and Munich Augsburg. Kitbashing at its finest!

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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby BillS » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:48 am

Excellent work! !!*ok*!!
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby KPryor » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:17 am

Beautiful work!
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby OpenRailer90 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:25 pm

Creative work! Interested to know what are the parts to build that.
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:00 pm

OpenRailer90 wrote:Creative work! Interested to know what are the parts to build that.


European Asset Pack
American Asset Pack
Munich Augsburg
Sherman Hill is the track.
*The Bergen uses these 4 assets in many many different combinations on the route in general*
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby OpenRailer90 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:09 pm

I meant to ask how you built the bridge.
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby buzz456 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:15 pm

OpenRailer90 wrote:I meant to ask how you built the bridge.


I think he answered you.
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:35 pm

OpenRailer90 wrote:I meant to ask how you built the bridge.


What we did on the bridge is what we do with many of the structures.
We: Enlarge, Shrink, Flip, Rotate, Submerge and/or combine each asset until it looks similar to what we are modeling.

HX Draw has about 35 assets in total.

The shrink tool - the size adjustment tool in editor that came out in 2014 is key. I could not do this over a year ago. Its a game changing feature. I can make new assets out of combining existing ones. The Bergen line is filled with them. Once you start using the pieces you can visualize the parts you need.

When I update the Bergen Line on Friday Morning, go into editor and click each asset to see the pieces. Then go UNDER the bridge. It really is quite cool. When you are in the cab you get just enough visual queues to think - yeah, that is HX Draw. Take a screen cap and you say - hey, wait a minute these are pieces!
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:26 pm

Some more pictures of the finish work on the Meadowlands as the Bergen Line gets ready to release its next update this Friday. For those that subscribed to the route and then pulled out when they noticed they needed Munich-Augsburg, do know its a key DLC. Without MA I could not replicate streets, parking lots and big interstates. The building variety is superb in MA as well and its a great route too. MA gives the Bergen Line that custom feel!

Thanks to all of you that have subscribed from RWA. And thanks RWA for having a site for the serious virtual railroader to show his work.
*!!thnx!!*

This bridge is awesome for train spotting!
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:31 pm

This week - The New York Division goes into Hudson County, NJ for the big push to Hoboken. Jersey City will be a huge undertaking. We are confident we can make our virtual version stunning in every way.

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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:39 pm

3 Day Weekends are awesome - working on Harmon Cove in Jersey City just minutes away from shopping, the Meadowlands and the City!
Very pleased with how this is coming out - 16 months of route building coming together - yes! !!*ok*!!

At 25 Stories: Harmon Cove is now the tallest building to date!

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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby imnew » Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:03 am

Nice shots minerman! !!*ok*!! Quick question for ya. HD Draw... - would that be the same as Conrail era CP draw?
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby fraserm » Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:23 am

I was free-roaming the New York Division-Bergen Line 9.2.3: Meadowlands ! Line and I noticed I was coming through Mahwah, NJ. I had a furnished apartment there for a couple years while I had a contract position in Wayne, about 1/2 hour down Rte. 202. I went to the Camera 2 view and saw a very respectable representation of the apartment complex, the Mall and Starview Apartments. The arrow points to where my apartment would have been WRT the tracks:
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Nice detail! The Mahwah passenger platform is also quite representative of the prototype. This is a very well made route. There have been many additions to scenery since I downloaded it when it was first posted. I used to see NJT equipment running the passenger route every day. Here it is in GE:
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Kudos to the author, Minerman146. This will be lots of fun for creating PAX and freight scenarios!
Thanks for your efforts! *!!thnx!!*
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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:00 am

imnew wrote:Nice shots minerman! !!*ok*!! Quick question for ya. HD Draw... - would that be the same as Conrail era CP draw?


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CP Draw is in Buffalo, New York. HX Draw crosses the Hackensack River in Secaucus, NJ. You have a good eye - both are jackknife bridges of the same design! http://bridgehunter.com/ny/erie/bh57608/

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Re: New York Division-Bergen Line

Unread postby minerman146 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:41 am

Postby fraserm » Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:23 am
I was free-roaming the New York Division-Bergen Line 9.2.3: Meadowlands ! Line and I noticed I was coming through Mahwah, NJ. I had a furnished apartment there for a couple years while I had a contract position in Wayne, about 1/2 hour down Rte. 202. I went to the Camera 2 view and saw a very respectable representation of the apartment complex, the Mall and Starview Apartments. The arrow points to where my apartment would have been WRT the tracks"


Fraserm - this is exactly the kind of comment I really enjoy reading! I want the engine driver to believe - if only for a little while - that this is a real place. I learned that replicating what I see is much more appealing and interesting than winging it. There is some great country here and these towns are a huge pain to do when I am working them, but in the end, I look back and go "holy smokes, this looks good". In many many places on the route you can detrain and just go up and down the streets. I highly recommend, the Dundee Spur in Garfield. Since my rule is detail to 1250 feet on each side - I ended up building half of Passiac, NJ! I am glad, I don't have the time for 3D Crafting or I would still be making every gas station, deli and mailbox for this route! It would never get done.

For those that are interested in why the route looks a bit thin from roughly Ramsey to Highland Mills, I will explain. I never built a route before, this is my son's (10 at the time) game. He taught me how to lay track! We did this as a test and never originally planned on going any more than 15 miles. So the route is in 4 phases. Phase 1: We built Suffern and then went to Highland Mills, New York- that was may April to July 2014. Phase 2. July to October 2014, Ramsey to Hawthorn, Phase 3. October 2014 to April 2015. Bergen line from Glen Rock to Garfield. Phase 4. is today May 2015 to September 2015 - Wood-Ridge to Secaucus. While I was working phase 2 I realized that I would need to detail as I went or it would never get it done so from Ramsey, you should notice the work getting better and better. I did take a few scenery detours that cost a month each of work - NYS&W at Passaic Junction, NY&GL RR, in Garfiled (Dundee Spur), the Nabisco Plant in Fair Lawn, and 3 miles of the Pascack Line to Wood-Ridge. Hawthorne became a bit of detour as I really wanted to build the main line through Patterson. I stopped and the Passaic River.

I will save some words and direct you to the beginning of this thread and to our page on Steam. The steam workshop site has all of our build notes - every day we work there is a log of what was done and how long was spent doing it.

In our wildest dreams - we never ever thought we would get the response from so many people. There is a gentleman who worked in East Rutherford at Diamond (Dubois) chemical - he remembers, another who worked the Erie and EL to 1967 - he remembers and a younger one who worked the Newark Branch for Conrail and now CSX and he remembers. And there is my Dad - who drove this route and says I nailed Suffern. And lastly there is me. I rode with my Dad on the EL many times on this line. What you see is my memory of looking out the window sitting in the fireman's chair so many times form about 1972 to 1978.

Fraserm - Thank You for writing and letting us know what you think. We remember our friends and Mahwah is crying for a little lovin. When you lived is Mahwah - what was the Make and Model of the car you drove? *!greengrin!*

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