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Re: NEC Manual Switch Targets are Reversed

Unread postby buzz456 » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:53 pm

Chacal wrote:In my NEC folder, I have both a "Manual_junction_Lever_1" and a "MSS" sets of files.
Which one do you overwrite with which one from Maria's Pass?


I took the MSS ones and renamed them as well as changing the name of the 'Junction_Lever.
Here I'll save you guys some work.
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Re: NEC Manual Switch Targets are Reversed

Unread postby Chacal » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:21 pm

I think you should not include the bin file.
It refers to the MSS files in the Marias Pass folder.
It won't work if you don't have Marias Pass.
It will work if you do, but then you need only the .bin file.

If you don't have Marias Pass, just copy the .Geopcdx and the two .bans.
Maybe the texture file is laso needed, I don't know.
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Re: NEC Manual Switch Targets are Reversed

Unread postby OlPaint » Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:18 pm

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I am very satified with the NEC manual switch stand fix.

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Re: NEC Manual Switch Targets are Reversed

Unread postby buzz456 » Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:27 pm

Chacal wrote:I think you should not include the bin file.
It refers to the MSS files in the Marias Pass folder.
It won't work if you don't have Marias Pass.
It will work if you do, but then you need only the .bin file.

If you don't have Marias Pass, just copy the .Geopcdx and the two .bans.
Maybe the texture file is laso needed, I don't know.


I am sure you are right. If anyone else is trying to fix this and doesn't have Marias then you need to do something a little difference. The texture actually refers to Donner. Anyway holler if anyone else is trying to get this to work and has any issues.
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Re: NEC Manual Switch Targets are Reversed

Unread postby OlPaint » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:12 pm

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If the NEC manual switch stand fix is referring to Donner Pass than the the 'Donner Pass manual switch stand target color reversal fix' must be installed also.

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Re: NEC Manual Switch Targets are Reversed

Unread postby buzz456 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:17 am

It has been on my system. Otherwise one could use the texture from MP and it's the right way around to begin with.
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Re: NEC Manual Switch Targets are Reversed

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:25 am

The fix for the NEC shoouls still work. It works here. My NEC route does not have a .ap folder so if you put the patch in the right place it should work.

Here is the Donner fix. This route at least on my computer has a .ap folder so all of the assets are rolled up there. If you look at your RailNetwork you will find the folder to be empty. I think that this will probably work by putting the rest of the folders from RailNetworks on down in there. From other discussions it seems as if non-zipped files are read first. I used 7zip and unzipped the RailNetwork folder so I caoud get at this texture file to swap the colors around. Anyway when you look at it that's the one. I included the original as .orig in case things get messed up for you.

Holler if these instructions aren't enough for you.

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Re: NEC Manual Switch Targets are Reversed

Unread postby OlPaint » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:41 pm

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Ok, I think I understand now. You put the fix for the dwarf switches in DonnerPass and then aliased the ManualJunction in NorthEastCorridor. Pretty Slick. Let me do the substitution with your files and see what happens.

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Re: NEC Manual Switch Targets are Reversed

Unread postby OlPaint » Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:24 pm

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None of your paks that you sent solved my problem. I am now officially stumped. I have corrected the dwarf switch stand target colors but failed to fix the NorthEastCorridor Junction Lever animation to prevent the handle plunging into the ground when the turnout changes from reverse to normal position. As I said before, I believe that the Geo file has to be edited to correct the animation. I have even tried to substitute the ManualJunction_Lever_1.GeoPcDx file from the DonnerPass with no success. Oh, well...

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Re: NEC Manual Switch Targets are Reversed

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:56 pm

It's not the geo you need to subsitute. It's the bin file. Take the folder you got from me. Subsitute the Manual_Junction_Lever_1 bin file for the original into your NEC Junctions folder. The geo is fine it's the binfile telling it to do the wrong thing. The Geo it will be using is the one from Donner. Did you unzip the Donner RailNetwork folder?
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Re: NEC Manual Switch Targets are Reversed

Unread postby OlPaint » Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:08 pm

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I have unzipped all the .AP files to get the complete folder trees for each route and scenarios for the archived Assets and Content that came with TS2014 and plus unpacked the new PacificSurfliner DLC and then I converted all these files to Read/Write so they can be seen and manipulated in RW_Tools as Mike Simpson has recommended.

So the BIN file is the bad boy? I have both your "NEC Switch Fix" and your "Junctions" paks you sent to me. Both the BIN files in these paks point to the Marias Pass directory for the MSS.Geo file and the Anim.BAN and Anim1.BAN animation files. So in reality, Marias Pass Dwarf Switch Stand is what the fix is actually aliased to. And Marias Pass Dwarf Switch Stands work correctly and alway have. So something else is radically wrong with my setup. What can it be?

I will try to make the substitution again after my frustration and pent up anger has a chance to subside. I have so many files floating around now that I have lost track of which one I need to work with. I need some Time Out...

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Re: NEC Manual Switch Targets are Reversed

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:28 pm

Been there done that. *!rolleyes!*
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Re: NEC Manual Switch Targets are Reversed

Unread postby AmericanSteam » Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:20 pm

This seems to be an old issue that plagues several routes. There was a target fix for Donner Pass that corrected the issue there. Can that same fix be applied to other routes or must it be done on an individual basis? I am quite new to this and I need to ask a lot of questions.
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Re: NEC Manual Switch Targets are Reversed

Unread postby jalsina » Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:48 pm

The stands colors in Provo (Soldier Summit) seem to be inverted.
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Re: NEC Manual Switch Targets are Reversed

Unread postby buzz456 » Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:24 pm

There is a NEC fix floating around out there somewhere also. I don't remember if it's in the library or just in a thread.
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