Wheelslip Animations

Discussion of rolling-stock creation & re-painting.

Wheelslip Animations

Unread postby Railfan587 » Thu May 16, 2013 4:57 pm

Are there wheelslip animations for the steam locomotives in TS2013?
User avatar
Railfan587
 
Posts: 467
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:46 pm
Location: Ohio USA

Re: Wheelslip Animations

Unread postby CSX2057 » Thu May 16, 2013 5:10 pm

no
Hi! I'm Daniel (37). A casual Train Simulator Streamer and Railfanner. 4+ hours of Fun and Adventure with Laughter, Reactions and SoundFX.
CSX2057 YOUTUBE CHANNEL
User avatar
CSX2057
 
Posts: 1383
Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:18 am
Location: Georgia

Re: Wheelslip Animations

Unread postby Railfan587 » Thu May 16, 2013 5:18 pm

Is there anyway to make them? I mean, MSTS even had wheelslip animations. And I just saw the release video for the LMS 3F Jinty on Railsimulardotcom's youtube page. How did they make them?
User avatar
Railfan587
 
Posts: 467
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:46 pm
Location: Ohio USA

Re: Wheelslip Animations

Unread postby hertsbob » Thu May 16, 2013 5:32 pm

This might help you. (Obviously not related to a US loco)
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=361&t=131849&start=30#p1637203
"Life is like a journey, taken on a train
With a pair of travelers at each windowpane.
I may sit beside you all the journey through,
Or I may sit elsewhere, never knowing you.
But if fate should mark me to sit by your side,
Let's be pleasant travellers; it's so short a ride."
User avatar
hertsbob
 
Posts: 388
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:15 am
Location: The Hollywood of SW Herts

Re: Wheelslip Animations

Unread postby buzz456 » Thu May 16, 2013 7:31 pm

The K4 has wheel slip animation.
Buzz
39 and holding.
"Some people find fault like there's a reward for it."- Zig Ziglar
"If you can dream it you can do it."- Walt Disney
Image
User avatar
buzz456
Site Admin
 
Posts: 21250
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:30 am
Location: SW Florida

Re: Wheelslip Animations

Unread postby FourEightFour » Thu May 16, 2013 9:22 pm

CSX2057 wrote:no


!*whack*!

Connie has wheelslip and an accompanying sound effect.
User avatar
FourEightFour
 
Posts: 285
Joined: Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:35 pm
Location: Colorado

Re: Wheelslip Animations

Unread postby CSX2057 » Fri May 17, 2013 1:09 am

FourEightFour wrote:
CSX2057 wrote:no


!*whack*!

Connie has wheelslip and an accompanying sound effect.


Well I guess you can beat me up. Never expected K4 and Connie. Someone hit me or Image

I did use the Gtrax and 2 V1 IHH and none showed. So I guess I didn't know these 2 do have wheelslip animation.
Hi! I'm Daniel (37). A casual Train Simulator Streamer and Railfanner. 4+ hours of Fun and Adventure with Laughter, Reactions and SoundFX.
CSX2057 YOUTUBE CHANNEL
User avatar
CSX2057
 
Posts: 1383
Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:18 am
Location: Georgia

Re: Wheelslip Animations

Unread postby mrennie » Fri May 17, 2013 1:58 am

I'm not entirely sure, but it might have something to do with including the rotation of the wheels in the animation you export for the running gear animation attached to the main driver in the bogie blueprint for the drivers. The drivers will rotate even without them being included deliberately in the animation - RW does it for you - but perhaps then it doesn't do the wheelslip. Apart from including the rotation of the drivers as I mentioned, I didn't have to do anything else special to get the wheelslip to work. The sounds, on the other hand, do require some extra fiddling to make them work.
User avatar
mrennie
 
Posts: 3214
Joined: Wed May 30, 2012 12:22 pm

Re: Wheelslip Animations

Unread postby g_nash » Fri May 17, 2013 4:03 am

mrennie wrote:I'm not entirely sure, but it might have something to do with including the rotation of the wheels in the animation you export for the running gear animation attached to the main driver in the bogie blueprint for the drivers. The drivers will rotate even without them being included deliberately in the animation


You might find something of interest in this pdf that 's got a piece with Sean Harris on wheelslip http://railworksmagazine.co.uk/issues/DecIssue14.pdf ,also take a look at the anims on Mikes new Jinty,wheelslip is really nice work on it,best in RW without doubt.There was,I think,more @ UKTS ,( got some pages and messages somewhere on the mess that is my train drives)I'm reasonably sure that Kali or Andi has some interesting posts in the old RW2 forums.Your best bet though is maybe contacting Sean,or,at least,looking at Leander.Can do the same with early diesels that did not feature the modern computer controlled anti-slip for those with an interest.
g_nash
 
Posts: 461
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:43 pm

Re: Wheelslip Animations

Unread postby Railfan587 » Mon May 20, 2013 2:36 pm

Well, I saw this video on youtube.

Skip to 1:48. How did this guy get wheelslip?
User avatar
Railfan587
 
Posts: 467
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:46 pm
Location: Ohio USA

Re: Wheelslip Animations

Unread postby CSX2057 » Mon May 20, 2013 2:42 pm

Huh! Well blow me down. Our US steam didn't do that before I guess that's new for me. That was cool.
Hi! I'm Daniel (37). A casual Train Simulator Streamer and Railfanner. 4+ hours of Fun and Adventure with Laughter, Reactions and SoundFX.
CSX2057 YOUTUBE CHANNEL
User avatar
CSX2057
 
Posts: 1383
Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:18 am
Location: Georgia

Re: Wheelslip Animations

Unread postby Railfan587 » Mon May 20, 2013 2:50 pm

CSX2057 wrote:Huh! Well blow me down. Our US steam didn't do that before I guess that's new for me. That was cool.

I know right! Whoever found out how to do this is a genius. I wonder if this in a patch or something. I've never seen this on a Black 5, or any default steam engine before. I wish we could have that kind of animations on all of the steam engines.
User avatar
Railfan587
 
Posts: 467
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:46 pm
Location: Ohio USA

Re: Wheelslip Animations

Unread postby Railfan587 » Mon May 20, 2013 4:54 pm

Ok, I found out why that train had wheelslip. It's a mod in a payware Black 5 sound pack that fixes the steam loco's bogies. On this thread for the release of the sound pack on UKTS, http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... &sk=t&sd=a , user ChrisBarnes says, "No, just corrected the silly Kuju mistake of setting the pony truck to be the driving bogie and the main frames as dead." That explain why the pilot trucks spin and the drivers don't. Also, to have wheelslip you must go into the Engine folder, and open the XML file. Next, change the friction levels to around 0.2500, and your're all set. More around editing wheelslip is on page 2 of the UKTS thread.
User avatar
Railfan587
 
Posts: 467
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:46 pm
Location: Ohio USA

Re: Wheelslip Animations

Unread postby mrennie » Mon May 20, 2013 5:32 pm

Railfan587 wrote:Ok, I found out why that train had wheelslip. It's a mod in a payware Black 5 sound pack that fixes the steam loco's bogies. On this thread for the release of the sound pack on UKTS, http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... &sk=t&sd=a , user ChrisBarnes says, "No, just corrected the silly Kuju mistake of setting the pony truck to be the driving bogie and the main frames as dead." That explain why the pilot trucks spin and the drivers don't. Also, to have wheelslip you must go into the Engine folder, and open the XML file. Next, change the friction levels to around 0.2500, and your're all set. More around editing wheelslip is on page 2 of the UKTS thread.


I thought I'd done wheelslip already in the Connie. I tried it out just now in the Consolidatin Power scenario, and sure enough, if you open the throttle wide at the start, you get wheelslip. The only thing is that the wheels spin, but not all that fast. They'd probably spin faster just by lowering that friction value more (but then you'd have even more trouble climbing up to Gallitzin).
User avatar
mrennie
 
Posts: 3214
Joined: Wed May 30, 2012 12:22 pm

Re: Wheelslip Animations

Unread postby ozinoz » Mon May 20, 2013 7:37 pm

Railfan587 wrote:Well, I saw this video on youtube.

Skip to 1:48. How did this guy get wheelslip?


That is a great demonstration - those new Brit sound packs are fantastic and a great demonstration of the wheel slip. It is just a pity there is no real life US sound sources to do something similar, although having said that, the Connie is still something special :D

!*cheers*!
ozinoz
 
Posts: 1622
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:59 am
Location: Antipodes

Next

Return to Rolling-Stock Design

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests