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Columbia Valley Pacific Dunmore Caboose

Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:31 pm
by Railfan722
I figured that since we don't have any cabooses for the CVP, I'd take a crack at it. This is the GreatNortherner/Minerman E-L C170. Still not 100% sure on the text size or the green band. Weathering is also still to come.
Screenshot_Columbia Valley Pacific Railway(V1a)_49.46134--120.50821_12-02-06.jpg

Thoughts?

Re: Columbia Valley Pacific Dunmore Caboose

Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:47 pm
by minerman146
Its good to see the Dunmore's survived Conrail! *!greengrin!*
My thoughts, take Columbia Valley Pacific, shrink the font and put it in the green band. Take your logo, make it monochrome white and a little smaller. Or, do the same as above but in yellow. You get the idea, but I'm biased!

Now If I you also put "radio equipped" on it ....

Keep on the great paint work sir.

Re: Columbia Valley Pacific Dunmore Caboose

Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:50 pm
by Railfan722
Screenshot_Columbia Valley Pacific Railway(V1a)_49.46144--120.50760_12-00-52.jpg

Not perfect, but certainly an improvement - the yellow logo looks a lot better! *!!thnx!!* I'll work on it some more this weekend, like trying to make the text and logo a little higher res, and trying to center the text between the windows.

Re: Columbia Valley Pacific Dunmore Caboose

Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:39 pm
by minerman146
Geez Louise you work so fast! Keep messing around with it as you say.
Hey your first picture didn't have boxcars ... and now ... hey... I see what you did there!
*!greengrin!*

Re: Columbia Valley Pacific Dunmore Caboose

Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:20 pm
by Railfan722
Screenshot_Columbia Valley Pacific Railway(V1a)_49.46231--120.49673_12-00-20.jpg

One last one for tonight. Due to the mapping of the model, it appears that the positioning of the words is mirrored on both sides, so the text will be partially cut off on the end if one side is centered. Any advice? !*don-know!* I was thinking of a custom decal, but I wouldn't know where to start.

Re: Columbia Valley Pacific Dunmore Caboose

Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:56 pm
by QcRail
Railfan722 wrote:
Screenshot_Columbia Valley Pacific Railway(V1a)_49.46144--120.50760_12-00-52.jpg

Not perfect, but certainly an improvement - the yellow logo looks a lot better! *!!thnx!!* I'll work on it some more this weekend, like trying to make the text and logo a little higher res, and trying to center the text between the windows.


May I suggest the following observations:
1. keep number of colors to 3 = red & green for body and white graphics (logo + text). See how it is applied to the F7 loco **** strive for impact with minimal options.
2. Text «Columbia Valley Pacific» should be centered within the window space.
3.lower the leaf logo as not to touch the lower line.
4. add a little texture (i.e. dirt - very lightly) to body colors. or else it seems to come out of the paint shop **!!2cents!!**

Good luck and if you use either Photoshop or Gimp, DO USE lots of layers, i.e. copy one layer and change any aspect - thus you reduce the surprise of loosing time and worthy efforts.

Ciao, QcRail

Re: Columbia Valley Pacific Dunmore Caboose

Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:24 am
by GreatNortherner
That's a striking livery. Cool repaint!

Railfan722 wrote:Still not 100% sure on the text size or the green band. ... Thoughts?

I like the grene stripe. And I had an idea for a possible second livery based on the red/green one: I think it would look good too if you turned the green stripe white and the font on it dark grey or black. It would be more in line with the loco paint scheme then and the story could be that the red/yellow/white livery was the original caboose livery (maybe use a roman font?) and the green stripe was a later version of it. Or it could be that only the green striped cabooses are allowed on interchange trains with the GN/CP, the white striped ones have to stay on home rails.

There can't be too many cabooses!

Re: Columbia Valley Pacific Dunmore Caboose

Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:09 am
by Railfan722
Screenshot_Columbia Valley Pacific Railway(V1a)_49.46093--120.50818_12-00-04.jpg

Trying out a few things. The white contrasted a bit too much for my liking with the red, so I went with the dark grey on the paint guide. The text has once again moved to above the stripe due to a mapping oddity on the model - one side would look great and perfectly centered, and the other would look...
Screenshot_Columbia Valley Pacific Railway(V1a)_49.46099--120.50826_12-00-05.jpg

...not great.

Things still to do:
1. Weathering. This will come when I am completely happy with the paint.
2. Changing the font. GreatNortherner's idea of a Roman font is a really good one, and I'll look into that in a little bit. (see below)

EDIT: Slightly modified version of the grey, now with roman font.
Screenshot_Columbia Valley Pacific Railway(V1a)_49.46098--120.50810_12-00-12.jpg

Re: Columbia Valley Pacific Dunmore Caboose

Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:49 pm
by AmericanSteam
Roman font, green stripe, white lettering with smaller font centered on green stripe, colored logo, below stripe. **!!2cents!!**

Re: Columbia Valley Pacific Dunmore Caboose

Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:26 pm
by Railfan722
Screenshot_Columbia Valley Pacific Railway(V1a)_49.46104--120.50683_12-00-35.jpg

Here ya go! As detailed above, the text won't really fit in the band because of the window placement and the model mapping, but this is a 'close enough' I think. Time to move on to weathering.

Re: Columbia Valley Pacific Dunmore Caboose

Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:29 pm
by AmericanSteam
I like it, thank you for the preview.
*!!thnx!!*

Re: Columbia Valley Pacific Dunmore Caboose

Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:53 pm
by Railfan722
Screenshot_Columbia Valley Pacific Railway(V1a)_49.46111--120.50679_12-00-26.jpg

Initial stab at weathering. Still needs a lot of work, and if anyone's got any pointers, then I'm all ears.

Re: Columbia Valley Pacific Dunmore Caboose

Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:53 pm
by QcRail
Railfan722 wrote:
Screenshot_Columbia Valley Pacific Railway(V1a)_49.46111--120.50679_12-00-26.jpg

Initial stab at weathering. Still needs a lot of work, and if anyone's got any pointers, then I'm all ears.


Another possibility:
1. bring leaf logo in the green band, at left of single window,
2. lower, in smaller font size, the «COLUMBIA VALLEY PACIFIC» in the green band

Weathering : at first light grey or wine red STREAKs from roof ( = to a few inches from joint)
then at bottom of body above wheels (spray from running in the rain with sediments from ballast) a bit darker dirt;

Look into : https://www.textures.com/premiumaccess1 ... mageSize=M (i.e. for textures which you can resize or adapt).

QcRail

Re: Columbia Valley Pacific Dunmore Caboose

Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:38 pm
by wacampbell
Its nice to see everyone having fun with the route! Thanks for your contributions.

Re: Columbia Valley Pacific Dunmore Caboose

Unread postPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:46 am
by Railfan722
Alright, so it's been over a week, and these are ready to be released, I think. I tried a bunch of things regarding weathering, none of which looked amazing, so I've decided just to go ahead and release them without weathering. I'll get these packed up and submitted in just a little bit. Many thanks to all those that gave suggestions and advice.
Screenshot_Columbia Valley Pacific Railway(V1a)_49.46337--120.44028_12-00-09.jpg

I'm looking into doing a set of either CE-1s or X200s next - which would you guys prefer?