Whimsey? or was this actually done...

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Re: Whimsey? or was this actually done...

Unread postby MadMike1024 » Tue May 24, 2011 3:41 am

Hawk now has the SOO F3A-1 / F3A-2 set, and an A-B-A Minneapolis and Saint Louis set. White/red SOO F7s are next. (and just maybe a red/white M&SL FT A-B-A set)
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Re: Whimsey? or was this actually done...

Unread postby JackD » Tue May 24, 2011 6:51 am

Wonderful!!!

Thank you **!!bow!!**

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Re: Whimsey? or was this actually done...

Unread postby Hawk » Tue May 24, 2011 8:58 am

MadMike1024 wrote:Hawk now has the SOO F3A-1 / F3A-2 set, and an A-B-A Minneapolis and Saint Louis set.

...as does the rest of the world now. *!greengrin!*

http://railworksamerica.com/FileLibrary ... -2011.html
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Re: Whimsey? or was this actually done...

Unread postby MadMike1024 » Thu May 26, 2011 5:08 pm

Image

Cotton Belt?

St.Louis & Southwestern?

Both, as it had both at one time or another?

OK, experts... go! !*roll-laugh*!

WIp, so some details are not finished.
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Re: Whimsey? or was this actually done...

Unread postby Chessie8638 » Thu May 26, 2011 5:15 pm

Cotton Belt in the "Black Widow" Scheme: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1634037

St. Louis Southwestern Railway in the "Confederate Grey" Scheme (black and white photo): http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1564066

Yellow on the top (Cab Windows, Roof, etc). Grey for the middle section. Yellow for the nose and stripes. Red for the lines (separating the yellow and grey). Black for the trucks and lower part of carbody.

Edit: Here is the only "Photo" I can find of the scheme in color: http://www.rebelrails2.com/store/images ... sSignS.jpg
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Re: Whimsey? or was this actually done...

Unread postby MadMike1024 » Thu May 26, 2011 6:51 pm

Chessie8638 wrote:Cotton Belt in the "Black Widow" Scheme: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1634037

St. Louis Southwestern Railway in the "Confederate Grey" Scheme (black and white photo): http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1564066

Yellow on the top (Cab Windows, Roof, etc). Grey for the middle section. Yellow for the nose and stripes. Red for the lines (separating the yellow and grey). Black for the trucks and lower part of carbody.

Edit: Here is the only "Photo" I can find of the scheme in color: http://www.rebelrails2.com/store/images ... sSignS.jpg


I plan to dig out the FT paintbox soon, Have a M&StL to do, and that Rebel looks like a challenge. What I needed to know is what to letter the above?
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Re: Whimsey? or was this actually done...

Unread postby Chessie8638 » Thu May 26, 2011 8:35 pm

MadMike1024 wrote:I plan to dig out the FT paintbox soon, Have a M&StL to do, and that Rebel looks like a challenge. What I needed to know is what to letter the above?


That's completely upto you. The Cotton Belt never had Daylight painted F Unit's..
espee.railfan.net wrote:All were delivered in SSW version of SP's Black Widow paint, yellow carbody handrails and grabirons, and a single headlight.
The Black Widow paint was basically the same as SP's, even allowing for the 'Sunset' medallion at the bottom of the nose door, except in its place they had a reflectorized bead board with the roadnumber In the place of the upper signal light they carried a Cotton Belt medallion. The A units were lettered St.L.S-W (centered between the carbody doors, below the louvers), later changed to Cotton Belt in 15" lettering circa 1955. The road number appeared in the upper rear panel below the air intake circa 1958. The B units never carried the roadname, and only carried the roadnumber in 10" script centered on the carbody side after 1958. All units had the roadnumber in black, in very small lettering centered on the red lower carbody stripe. Judging from photographs, perhaps not many F units received scarlet and gray paint. Those that did, have basically the same lettering style as in Black Widow paint.


So you can put whatever logo/scheme you want. Cotton Belt, St. Louis Southwestern, etc.

I like the simple St. L. S-W the early Black Widow scheme had: http://espee.railfan.net/nonindex/f-uni ... erenyi.jpg
Might look nice on a Daylight Scheme.
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Re: Whimsey? or was this actually done...

Unread postby MadMike1024 » Thu May 26, 2011 9:16 pm

That's completely upto you. The Cotton Belt never had Daylight painted F Unit's..
espee.railfan.net wrote:All were delivered in SSW version of SP's Black Widow paint, yellow carbody handrails and grabirons, and a single headlight.
The Black Widow paint was basically the same as SP's, even allowing for the 'Sunset' medallion at the bottom of the nose door, except in its place they had a reflectorized bead board with the roadnumber In the place of the upper signal light they carried a Cotton Belt medallion. The A units were lettered St.L.S-W (centered between the carbody doors, below the louvers), later changed to Cotton Belt in 15" lettering circa 1955. The road number appeared in the upper rear panel below the air intake circa 1958. The B units never carried the roadname, and only carried the roadnumber in 10" script centered on the carbody side after 1958. All units had the roadnumber in black, in very small lettering centered on the red lower carbody stripe. Judging from photographs, perhaps not many F units received scarlet and gray paint. Those that did, have basically the same lettering style as in Black Widow paint.


So you can put whatever logo/scheme you want. Cotton Belt, St. Louis Southwestern, etc.

I like the simple St. L. S-W the early Black Widow scheme had: http://espee.railfan.net/nonindex/f-uni ... erenyi.jpg
Might look nice on a Daylight Scheme.[/quote]

http://books.google.com/books?id=sdhbTuYxgNsC&pg=PA160&lpg=PA160&dq=cotton+belt+304+gp7+daylight&source=web&ots=aUO6ph0AXE&sig=0teOO6Kc76Iv33q25mXOiwMa0vc#v=onepage&q&f=false scroll up the pages a bit and look at #306 it is surely is a FP7, and it does look like a daylight pattern
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Re: Whimsey? or was this actually done...

Unread postby Chessie8638 » Thu May 26, 2011 9:40 pm

Hmm, interesting. I didn't see the P in FP7. Makes a difference, haha.. *!embar*!
After doing some looking I found:

"The Cotton Belt only had one FP7. The FP7 was delivered in SP Daylight colors in April 1950 as #330. And on 3/30/1952 it was renumbered to #306. The next change was after an April 1955 wreck at Paragould, Arkansas that Cotton Belt lettering replaced St. Louis Southwestern lettering. A final change to Espee Scarlet and Gray came in late 1958 or early 1959. Cotton Belt passenger service ended on November 30, 1959 and the Cotton Belt's only FP7 was leased to Southern Pacific as that lines #6462."

So it depends if you want it before 1955 it would have St. Louis Southwestern on the side. For a look after 1955 it would be Cotton Belt.
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