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how to solve missing marker

Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:46 am
by gwgardner
I occasionally come across a 'missing marker' problem when attempting to test or run a scenario. Upon going into the editor, the marker is indeed there, with the right name. And yet the system declares it missing.

Has anyone found a solution to this other than deleting the marker and remaking it?

Re: how to solve missing marker

Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:13 am
by Machinist
When you create a marker you need to use exactly the same name both in "Marker Name" and "Internal Name", in the flyout Marker settings. I already had this sort of problem because I forgot the Internal name, or the names were slightly different due to a typpo (this is why currently I add a Marker Name and then copy and paste into Internal Name).

It looks like timetable and marker object show the marker name, but when loading scenario is checked the Internal name.

Hope this helps..

Re: how to solve missing marker

Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:46 pm
by gwgardner
I'll check that. These are scenario specific markers I'm referring to, and when I placed them I just let the editor set the names for them.

Re: how to solve missing marker

Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:04 pm
by dick8299
Machinist wrote:When you create a marker you need to use exactly the same name both in "Marker Name" and "Internal Name", in the flyout Marker settings. I already had this sort of problem because I forgot the Internal name, or the names were slightly different due to a typpo (this is why currently I add a Marker Name and then copy and paste into Inernal Name).

It looks like timetable and marker object show the marker name, but when loading scenario is checked the Internal name.

Hope this helps..


Thank you for the information. There is a scenario in Pike's Eagle Ridge Route that would not load because the player service could not find a specific marker. I edited the marker name by the cut and paste method you mentioned, and the scenario now loads with no problem.

Re: how to solve missing marker

Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:14 pm
by artimrj
Machinist wrote:When you create a marker you need to use exactly the same name both in "Marker Name" and "Internal Name", in the flyout Marker settings. I already had this sort of problem because I forgot the Internal name, or the names were slightly different due to a typpo (this is why currently I add a Marker Name and then copy and paste into Internal Name).

It looks like timetable and marker object show the marker name, but when loading scenario is checked the Internal name.

Hope this helps..



I named every marker on my route and have no problems. You can not change the internal name but you can change the marker name. Several hundred of them on my route.

The only problem I had was before the RW3 update. I created a few scenarios using some of the route's markers and they worked fine, until I add more markers to the route. In RW 2, the markers are in a database somewhere, when you add another marker to the scenario, its info went with the route marker info. When you add more markers to the route, they take up internal names that can also be used in the scenario. That makes the scenario error or has you going to someplace your not supposed to go if AI was able to make the path.

Things are different now in RW 3. Markers in the scenario are stored in a different place than the markers in the route. In the scenario editor markers are now prefixed with (S). I assume this means Scenario.

Gary I dont know if thats what happened to you or not, but it is the only thing I had go wrong with markers on the NERW.

Re: how to solve missing marker

Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:54 pm
by Machinist
artimrj wrote:The only problem I had was before the RW3 update. I created a few scenarios using some of the route's markers and they worked fine, until I add more markers to the route. In RW 2, the markers are in a database somewhere, when you add another marker to the scenario, its info went with the route marker info. When you add more markers to the route, they take up internal names that can also be used in the scenario.

Things are different now in RW 3. Markers in the scenario are stored in a different place than the markers in the route.

Humm. This explains why new scenarios' makers (I never wrote scenario in RW2) don't show in RW_Tools route markers*. Sometimes I would like to place a consist in a scenario marker, but they are not available to be used yet. At least with my last version of RW_Tools (3.0.11), maybe Mike has already provided a fix.

* Edited later: in fact the RW_Tools table is called "Available Markers", not "route markers" as I said before.

Re: how to solve missing marker

Unread postPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 5:05 am
by robbit
You will get that error if you have a car number issue as in a car number being wrong in an instruction. If you told the instruction to do something with a certain car then the car is not there you get the missing marker error. and it is usually at the marker where the missing car is suppose to be.

I hope this helps and if I said it right