P&LE scenario for testing purposes

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Re: P&LE scenario for testing purposes

Unread postby glenn68 » Tue May 01, 2012 8:35 pm

Bob,
Before I forget, Your NERW route is excellent.
EX-ARMY here.

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Re: P&LE scenario for testing purposes

Unread postby railbard » Tue May 01, 2012 9:49 pm

I'll second that about Bob's work.
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Re: P&LE scenario for testing purposes

Unread postby artimrj » Wed May 02, 2012 5:52 am

Thanks guys, glad you like it. Hopefully you will like the next one too.
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Re: P&LE scenario for testing purposes

Unread postby _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha » Wed May 02, 2012 1:30 pm

Your next route is freelanced on the greater Pittsburgh area. Does it include the P&LE in one form or another or will it be based more on the current situation and traffic patterns?

Thomas' P&LE allows us to play the current CSX bridge route as well as the core of P&LE's local business, plus some heavy duty switching with all those steel mills and such.
That is a nice mix of straight mainline running and loading/unloading/switching activities which should cater to most user's needs.
Your NEPA offers the same action but is better developed because of all those varied scenarios. Hopefully, Thomas' P&LE catches on after some bugs have been resolved.

Regarding your observation of the trains passing by your workshop, I conclude they are more of less of the same length. So most likely they run over the P&LE without stopping as there are no sidings long enough to hold such trains. They have to pass opposing trains on those long double track sections. is the P&LE considered single track with long passing sidings or double track with stretches of single track? The longest stretch of single track and track speed dictate the whole traffic pattern and maximum capacity.

One final question, Bob, does CSX run their trains in packs or alternates west- and eastbounds, I need some ideas for another scenario to test the route.
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Re: P&LE scenario for testing purposes

Unread postby harryadkins » Wed May 02, 2012 1:33 pm

I live in Kingstree, SC, on the old Atlantic Coast Line mainline. CSX runs alot of trains through here and the trackage is a mixture of double & single track with CTC. The trains here alternate and many of them meet here in Ktree on the extra long siding.

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Re: P&LE scenario for testing purposes

Unread postby _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha » Wed May 02, 2012 2:09 pm

harryadkins wrote:I live in Kingstree, SC, on the old Atlantic Coast Line mainline. CSX runs alot of trains through here and the trackage is a mixture of double & single track with CTC. The trains here alternate and many of them meet here in Ktree on the extra long siding. Harry


Check out this map, Harry and notice the whole ex ACL is single track with long sidings. http://www.multimodalways.org/docs/railroads/companies/CSX/CSX%20Maps/CSX%20Florence%20SL%20Map.pdf

The corresponding CSX Baltimore service lane map has the former P&LE. http://www.multimodalways.org/docs/railroads/companies/CSX/CSX%20Maps/CSX%20Baltimore%20SL%20Map.pdf. That J&L tunnel is some bottleneck! In older P&LE track charts it is shown as double track so why doesn't CSX re-lay that second track?
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Re: P&LE scenario for testing purposes

Unread postby artimrj » Wed May 02, 2012 2:46 pm

The CSX trains alternate. They also come in sets one going each way. There is a yard here also and they do stop. There is a 4 track main that whittles down to one track and they stop there a lot. It is down in Aliquippa. They also stop behind my shop to wait for one going in the other direction. Thats where I get the best pictures. The BNSF coal train stops here and they split it in two and a sw1200 switcher that spews tons of smoke takes them down by the river and unloads them, then reloads them with different coal. The BNSF train is usually here for 3 days.

I am not modleing the new route according to anything but my imagination and pictures from Google Earth. I did not want to over lap TD's P&LE route. The DEM was done by Michael Stephan and then got left behind so I grabbed it and am putting it to use. But there will be nothing authentic about the route.
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Re: P&LE scenario for testing purposes

Unread postby glenn68 » Wed May 02, 2012 4:18 pm

Bob,
I know what route you are talking about. Does it have something to do with a logging camp and a container yard?
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Re: P&LE scenario for testing purposes

Unread postby artimrj » Wed May 02, 2012 4:51 pm

glenn68 wrote:Bob,
I know what route you are talking about. Does it have something to do with a logging camp and a container yard?


It will have everything. At least what we can model. It will be the sister route to the NERW.
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Re: P&LE scenario for testing purposes

Unread postby glenn68 » Wed May 02, 2012 5:02 pm

Bob,
A while back there was a forum thread started about a RW America route and if I can remember right Greatnortherner did the DEM for it and it was centered around the Pgh area.
What I would love to see is something similiar to Allegheny Ludlum mill and not a big blast furnace. Where speciality metals (Stainless, Titanium) is processed.
Here is some pictures;
http://www.atimetals.com/businesses/bus ... ad-Pa.aspx
http://www.atimetals.com/businesses/bus ... on-PA.aspx
Nothing really huge but those pictures are for examples.


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Re: P&LE scenario for testing purposes

Unread postby Hawk » Wed May 02, 2012 6:27 pm

glenn68 wrote:Bob,
A while back there was a forum thread started about a RW America route and if I can remember right Greatnortherner did the DEM for it and it was centered around the Pgh area.

Glenn

I believe that's the DEMs Bob is using.
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Re: P&LE scenario for testing purposes

Unread postby artimrj » Wed May 02, 2012 7:22 pm

Yes thats the DEM I am using. I also kept the folder names, so I still kinda consider this the RWA route. I guess it is dedicated to you all. I all I have is the DEM, I did not get any of the work that was already done. And to Glenn, ATI has a plant right next door to my shop, they bought it from my boss 11 years ago. They kept his old employees there and most are my friends. I know a few things *!!wink!!* . This is also a project route. Come over and grab a few tiles and play with them.

I also have a thread started in the WIP forum about it, we should get back to the P&LE in this one.
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