failed attempt dem/strm

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failed attempt dem/strm

Unread postby CN2899 » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:33 am

hi all , 2-3 days I had ago at put STRM data in the game . I followed matt peddlestons videos on you tube and had it playing/replaying while carrying out the steps ,used panorama viewfinder for .hgt files download made the DEM file with STRM file inside it put the .hgt file inside Idone my billing account , set my static maps got api key for google , got my coordination long and latitude for port Cartier (hint hint) done all that put the api into tools bit , but nothing came up , I restarted my game but still nothing , just the green grass . when i click to add the data my landscape goes white then black and kicks me off and does the same for generating background terrain.
I feel like done something somewhere wrong but not sure , hence fourth i turn your guys knowledge is there a better way or did I miss something critical . I tried 3 or 4 times to get but it wouldnt play ball

thanks for any help or advice
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Re: failed attempt dem/strm

Unread postby wacampbell » Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:33 am

Some thoughts that may help ...

> set my static maps got api key for google
> put the api into tools bit

Just to help narrow the scope, you don't need google maps to load dem terrain. So its not related to the api key etc.

> got my coordination long and latitude for port Cartier

In north america the longitude should be negative.

> ... nothing came up , I restarted my game but still nothing

The DEM data doesn't appear automatically. To load the DEM select 'Import' in the 'Painting Tools' menu. You will get a dialog box about importing DEM into that region of your route.

> when i click to add the data my landscape goes white then black and kicks me off

This makes me wonder if you have a problem with your terrain texture blueprint. What template did you use when you set up your route?

To help troubleshoot this further it may help to know the lat lon coordinates of your route and see a screenshot of your DEM\SRTM folder.

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Re: failed attempt dem/strm

Unread postby BoostedFridge » Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:42 am

CN2899 wrote:hi all , 2-3 days I had ago at put STRM data in the game . I followed matt peddlestons videos on you tube and had it playing/replaying while carrying out the steps ,used panorama viewfinder for .hgt files download made the DEM file with STRM file inside it put the .hgt file inside Idone my billing account , set my static maps got api key for google , got my coordination long and latitude for port Cartier (hint hint) done all that put the api into tools bit , but nothing came up , I restarted my game but still nothing , just the green grass . when i click to add the data my landscape goes white then black and kicks me off and does the same for generating background terrain.
I feel like done something somewhere wrong but not sure , hence fourth i turn your guys knowledge is there a better way or did I miss something critical . I tried 3 or 4 times to get but it wouldnt play ball

thanks for any help or advice


Lets treat and troubleshoot the Google Overlay and SRTM/DEM issues seperately.

For the DEM, are you absolutely sure that you have the correct DEM file(s?) for your route area? The .hgt file will be named for the northernmost border of DEM coverage in the file (line of latitude) and the westernmost border (longitude). If your route origin point is in Port-Cartier, the file you would need in your Railworks/DEM/SRTM file would be " N51W067.hgt "

You should have all of the appropriate .hgt files to cover your entire route inside the SRTM folder.

Another common mistake is when creating your route, and setting the route starting point, make sure that you have entered the correct values as shown in Google Earth. (eg: Latitude: 50.02xxx , Longitude: -66.88xxx ). If you get those backwards, or forget the " - ", then your route and DEM data will be in completely different places.

To generate your distant terrain, you MUST be in your route's " 0,0 " tile, and with the appropriate DEM files


As I side note, the files from panorama viewfinders are of the '3 arc second' resolution. This means that the contours of the ground are extrapolated from points every 270 feet across the surface of the earth. In mountainous areas (or any area that isn't as flat as a pancake) this means that much of the elevation data is approximated. You will find that rail right of way embankments, river and ocean shores, cuttings and fills along the right of way, and hillside angles are quite a bit different than what is actually there for topography in real life. It is a bit more of a process to download and convert, but there are 1 arc second files available for free from the "open.canada.ca" Canadian Government site. These are made from data sampled every 90 feet, and give a much better representation of the real topography.
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Re: failed attempt dem/strm

Unread postby CN2899 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:33 am

wacampbell wrote:Some thoughts that may help ...

> set my static maps got api key for google
> put the api into tools bit

Just to help narrow the scope, you don't need google maps to load dem terrain. So its not related to the api key etc.

> got my coordination long and latitude for port Cartier

In north america the longitude should be negative.

> ... nothing came up , I restarted my game but still nothing

The DEM data doesn't appear automatically. To load the DEM select 'Import' in the 'Painting Tools' menu. You will get a dialog box about importing DEM into that region of your route.

> when i click to add the data my landscape goes white then black and kicks me off

This makes me wonder if you have a problem with your terrain texture blueprint. What template did you use when you set up your route?

To help troubleshoot this further it may help to know the lat lon coordinates of your route and see a screenshot of your DEM\SRTM folder.

Wayne

I am going to. Uninstall it all and install a fesh copy of ts on my pc as that should deal with ant and corrupt files
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Re: failed attempt dem/strm

Unread postby CN2899 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:37 am

It is a bit more of a process to download and convert, but there are 1 arc second files available for free from the "open.canada.ca" Canadian Government site. These are made from data sampled every 90 feet, and give a much better representation of the real topography.[/quote]

I have had a good browse of open canada. Ca sits but couldnt find the downloadable content, but there is plenty of great helpful. Info on site too[
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Re: failed attempt dem/strm

Unread postby BoostedFridge » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:41 am

CN2899 wrote:I have had a good browse of open canada. Ca sits but couldnt find the downloadable content, but there is plenty of great helpful. Info on site too[


https://open.canada.ca/data/en/dataset/768570f8-5761-498a-bd6a-315eb6cc023d#wb-auto-6

You will need to download the .tiff files and convert them to the required format
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Re: failed attempt dem/strm

Unread postby mindenjohn » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:05 pm

There is an online converter for .tiff to dem - google it.
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Re: failed attempt dem/strm

Unread postby CN2899 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:27 pm

BoostedFridge wrote:
CN2899 wrote:I have had a good browse of open canada. Ca sits but couldnt find the downloadable content, but there is plenty of great helpful. Info on site too[


https://open.canada.ca/data/en/dataset/768570f8-5761-498a-bd6a-315eb6cc023d#wb-auto-6

You will need to download the .tiff files and convert them to the required format


thank you sir you are a major help most appreciated
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Re: failed attempt dem/strm

Unread postby CN2899 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:28 pm

mindenjohn wrote:There is an online converter for .tiff to dem - google it.


i ll have a snoop for it and thank you that bringing up cheif
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