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MY ROUTE IS NOW CRASHING!!

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:21 am
by sabreman61
I have about 100 hours and my CSX Chicago main line keeps crashing when I go to build on it. It won't even load HELP HELP HELP!!!

I don't know what to do. I want to CRY!! It was coming along so good PLEASE HELP!!! *!!thnx!!* *!!thnx!!* *!!thnx!!* !*hp*! !*hp*! !*hp*! !*hp*! !*hp*! !*hp*! !*hp*!

Re: MY ROUTE IS NOW CRASHING!!

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:32 am
by buzz456
You don't have a backup? Roll your computer back to whenever it worked OK and it should work then.

Re: MY ROUTE IS NOW CRASHING!!

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:37 am
by davedingler
I've had problems with crashes also. Seems to happen when I click on certain decals in the decal list. Other times when I get carried away with laying track or inserting objects and forget to save. Seem that if I don't save after a few entries that everything freezes up and the only recourse is the CAD method.

Dave

Re: MY ROUTE IS NOW CRASHING!!

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:18 am
by wacampbell
Don't panic! Please explain what exactly is happening when you enter the editor? Are you getting a black screen, or an error message or what? Is it only this route you can't edit - or all routes? What were the last changes you made to the route?

These things can be solved with a systematic approach. If your problem is specific to your route - ie you can edit other routes OK, then I recommend as a first step to disable the folders in your route directory one at a time. You can disable a folder by renaming it with an X suffix. Check to see if it operation is restored after disabling: MixMap, Networks, Scenery, Terrain, RouteInformation, and finally Scenarios ( although it will create a temporary Scenarios file ) .

Once you know which of these is the problem, we can dig further to figure it out.

Wayne

Re: MY ROUTE IS NOW CRASHING!!

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:24 am
by Chacal
Don't panic. Try to remember what you changed just before it started crashing.

Also, try running TS2014 with Logmate.
Search here for instructions.
The log will help you find the cause of the problem.

Re: MY ROUTE IS NOW CRASHING!!

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:31 pm
by sabreman61
wacampbell wrote:Don't panic! Please explain what exactly is happening when you enter the editor? Are you getting a black screen, or an error message or what? Is it only this route you can't edit - or all routes? What were the last changes you made to the route?

These things can be solved with a systematic approach. If your problem is specific to your route - ie you can edit other routes OK, then I recommend as a first step to disable the folders in your route directory one at a time. You can disable a folder by renaming it with an X suffix. Check to see if it operation is restored after disabling: MixMap, Networks, Scenery, Terrain, RouteInformation, and finally Scenarios ( although it will create a temporary Scenarios file ) .

Once you know which of these is the problem, we can dig further to figure it out.

Wayne


OK what I changed was I moved a piece of track about an inch to the right. When I go into the route editor for that route it crashes get a error message that "Railworks has stopped working"

Re: MY ROUTE IS NOW CRASHING!!

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:00 pm
by wacampbell
Verify that it is a track problem. Temporarily remove your Tracks.bin and 'Track Tiles' folder to a safe place. And see if the editor will start without the track.

Re: MY ROUTE IS NOW CRASHING!!

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:08 pm
by sabreman61
wacampbell wrote:Verify that it is a track problem. Temporarily remove your Tracks.bin and 'Track Tiles' folder to a safe place. And see if the editor will start without the track.



Tried it didn't work

Re: MY ROUTE IS NOW CRASHING!!

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:18 pm
by wacampbell
Check out your RouteProperties.xml file to make sure it hasn't been corrupted. Just make sure it ends with </cRouteProperties>

Then go through the route folders that I mentioned above, removing them one by one to a safe place. Eventually you should find one that causes the failure. Knowing which folder helps us isolate the problem.

Probably also a good idea to delete the cache files in your Content folder,
and delete all the blueprints.pak files just in case.

Re: MY ROUTE IS NOW CRASHING!!

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:43 pm
by sabreman61
wacampbell wrote:Check out your RouteProperties.xml file to make sure it hasn't been corrupted. Just make sure it ends with </cRouteProperties>

Then go through the route folders that I mentioned above, removing them one by one to a safe place. Eventually you should find one that causes the failure. Knowing which folder helps us isolate the problem.

Probably also a good idea to delete the cache files in your Content folder,
and delete all the blueprints.pak files just in case.


OK this is strange. I had TS 2013 Stored on my computer and I loaded the route and it WORKED! on TS2013. I have been using TS2014 and it keeps crashing. I hope this information Helps!

Re: MY ROUTE IS NOW CRASHING!!

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:43 pm
by Chacal
That's good information.
There are several experienced route builders here, give them time to read your post and reply.
Meanwhile, don't try anything drastic on your route, but take a backup now as I explained in the other thread.
Actually you should have done so before trying the suggestions above.

Re: MY ROUTE IS NOW CRASHING!!

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:51 pm
by barnez
Assuming it's the route causing the crash, and not TS2014 crashing at startup ...

this has worked for me on a few occasions: clone the route.

Try loading the new clone version.

That's it.

Why does it work? Dunno.

Will it work? It might.

Worst that can happen? It'll still crash.

-barnez

Re: MY ROUTE IS NOW CRASHING!!

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:59 pm
by Chacal
Remember to try with Logmate.

Re: MY ROUTE IS NOW CRASHING!!

Unread postPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:08 am
by sabreman61
Chacal wrote:Remember to try with Logmate.


Is this feeware? and do you have a link to the download?
Thanks
matt

Re: MY ROUTE IS NOW CRASHING!!

Unread postPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:16 am
by Chacal
You already have it. It comes with TS2014.
Search our forums for instructions.
The log may provide precious clues for solving your problem.