Future Bright for TSW say DTG. Post from Steam.

[JOHNtheREDNECK]

IN MY OPINION

TSW is one of those things that became too big to fail so I don't think they have much of a choice at this point but to continue working on it. They spent a lot of time making the graphics second to none and now that they got the eye candy out of the way and invested so much time into it now they need to refine it and make it more of a flexible gaming platform finding ways to make it as "easy" as possible for content creators to work their magic and start widening the community of this game. I had the game for a few days but refunded it due to performance issues like I have never seen before but I won't go into specifics as there are enough rants about that already.

[martin06]

IN MY OPINION

TSW is one of those things that became too big to fail so I don't think they have much of a choice at this point but to continue working on it. They spent a lot of time making the graphics second to none and now that they got the eye candy out of the way and invested so much time into it now they need to refine it and make it more of a flexible gaming platform finding ways to make it as "easy" as possible for content creators to work their magic and start widening the community of this game. I had the game for a few days but refunded it due to performance issues like I have never seen before but I won't go into specifics as there are enough rants about that already.

Completely agree. TSW Was a hurried launch, perhaps to respect deadline with investors, we will not know. I happened just like many, after an hour of TSW game bored.
At the time we are, it is not conceivable to give the public a game and charge for it, in the current state of development.
Beta / Update / Test / Fix
I would have liked them to take a more serious approach to the simulator that would become the definitive one. And not a rabble that up to Run 8 studios made fun.

[JOHNtheREDNECK]

IN MY OPINION

TSW is one of those things that became too big to fail so I don't think they have much of a choice at this point but to continue working on it. They spent a lot of time making the graphics second to none and now that they got the eye candy out of the way and invested so much time into it now they need to refine it and make it more of a flexible gaming platform finding ways to make it as "easy" as possible for content creators to work their magic and start widening the community of this game. I had the game for a few days but refunded it due to performance issues like I have never seen before but I won't go into specifics as there are enough rants about that already.

Completely agree. TSW Was a hurried launch, perhaps to respect deadline with investors, we will not know. I happened just like many, after an hour of TSW game bored.
At the time we are, it is not conceivable to give the public a game and charge for it, in the current state of development.
Beta / Update / Test / Fix
I would have liked them to take a more serious approach to the simulator that would become the definitive one. And not a rabble that up to Run 8 studios made fun.

Sometimes it's better to hold something back knowing it could be released in a lot better shape. TSW was a completely new animal and the whole team needed time to get used to it just like how you can see an evolution in addons for the current series from the old gp9 and dash 9 packs to the new packs like the turbine and u-boats. They are still under some sort of constraint at the end of the day like you said but in a lot of cases, quality is better than quantity.

[Derek]

lots to answer here, will get back to you when I am back in the office for an update.

cheers
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[Chacal]

They're going to update Derek!

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[Derek]

My body could do with an update!

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[NYWhiskey]

My body could do with an update!

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[Derek]

Hi, sorry for the delay,

Ok,. so here are my thoughts (my thoughts may not reflect those of DTG)


Q - What about several Japanese routes? I have already suggested the Odakyu Line to Hakone (as in original KUJU MSTS), this will be awesome because there are now 4 tracks between Machida and Shinjuku. And having a single line from Odawara up to Hakone only about 6km with Mt Fuji in the background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn2756ieVSw (honestly you can't see it from Hakone-railway station anyway-but half way between Shinjuku and Hakone you can) in TSW would be magical. It will enable you to capture many in the Japanese market (Japan's economy is doing great right now compared to everywhere else) through people building other lines, because it is almost entirely 3'6" gauge (1067mm) as there would be a host of buildings done for the line.

A - There are many hurdles and challenges to consider when investing into new content and in new locations

1 - Working with dedicated people with local knowledge which is key to giving an authentic experience.
2 - Licensing and working with TOC to get their support and access.
3 - Users and game play experience.
4 - Understanding the business model, research/access and effort over returns etc.
5 - How many TS users in that location do we currently have, can we build?
5 - Sustaining content to keep up interest and build a large community.
6 - Language/communication. - important to have an open dialog as we expand.

So while we are interested we need to make sure the infrastructure at DTG is in place to sustain the above. I personally want to make a routes in every country. I want the adventure and variety and as an artist the challenge of representing those areas and rolling stock, but it is not easy.


Q - And what about the Throttle-Ammeter issue in TSW currently? You did comment in another thread, and after testing the AC4400 yesterday I quickly turned it off (the throttle-power issue still not sorted-can you do a quick fix please?). It looks so good and you have got almost everything right! After looking at Trainz today I think you are spot on target, TSW will do EXTREMELY WELL! I'd just like to have the realistic operation of a locomotive sorted. From 27 to 30MPH in Notch 4 the AC4400 went from about 250Amps down to 97AMPS or less. This is not how it happens. It does reduce but it would probably get to 120Amps at 55MPH and not 29MPH!!! In Notch 4. I know in Notch 8 it will give you about 800 Amps at 30-35MPH (contact CSX if you haven't got some information already on how the Amps changes between 0-75MPH) and about 400AMPs at 55MPH. At 5Mph in Notch 8 you will probably get 1200-1600Amps. In the AC44. But in the SD40 it will be similar but a bit less.

A - I am unsure if the fix for these issues are in the content set up or in the core sim code. code updates will be worked on over the summer in time for our next content release. All feedback and comments to DTG please. These certainly help push through the updates.

Q - I hope to see an Australian route too (one I suggested is South Australia between Port Augusta and Peterborough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiR5nube33E(junction of Crystal Brook in the middle)) and possibly a branch line to Adelaide. You could have the Indian Pacific, Ghan and freight trains. This is a very unique track and you would capture Australia perfectly without having to go to extreme lengths to model Australian buildings. AT least you could put a few Kangaroos and Emus in it! Not only are these two creatures on our coat of arms, but they are very common downunder! Trains actually often hit skippies (Kangaroos) at night. Cars too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMB93SV4BNs

A - See Answer number 1

Q - One thing you could do is to add several vehicles that can be driven on the roads to the sim. You can walk around now but what about crew changes and in the depot where cars are well used? It would be nice to drive a car along the railway line and 'spot' your train. It is something different and adds an operational feel for the sim. Congratulations TSW is amazing and I am sure will get better performance from it (I am happy anyway) as time goes on and as new video cards are released.

A - Nice idea and one that may get done in the future, but as soon as you put in another type of vehicle the sim changes into something else. However rule nothing out and keep an open mind is how I approach suggestions.

Q - Now I know this isn't playing (you can for real)the chicken in ARMA2 but in TSW you walk up to a skippy, or a sheep or emu and have it run off or in the case of a 'boxing' kangaroo get a bad bruise. What you guys have done is great and excited to see the future. I hope you can put that Japanese and Australian content in the game. By the way the Australian main line is standard gauge same as Britain and USA but old parts of SA, WA and QLD have 3'6" gauge, but I think this won't need to be modeled in TSW with the line I have suggested.

A - DTG and the teams involved always do their due diligence and contact as many people as they can to help them answer the questions needed to be confident about producing a credible and authentic experience. We are not perfect and we do make mistakes from time to time , but what we get right far outweighs those times we got it wrong.
I thank you for your kind words and hope that over the coming months and years you enjoy where we take TSW. HOwever in the meantime TS20XX is there for and supported by DTG for a few years yet. Many of us still play/enjoy and create for it and will do for a long time to come.
The key is to enjoy our hobby in whatever form/software you choose.

cheers
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[BNSF650]

@ Derek

I was driving the CSX GP38 Last night i noticed that the horn on this unit is not accurate and needs to be fixed.

Video to the correct horn on a CSX GP38.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT-qE9d0Vzw

Also noticed on the CSX AC4400CW That the cab radio does not work or even light up for that matter. Could this be fixed?

Another issue is the crossings stayed down after a train passes and they dont go back up. Is this something you all are working on fixing also?

[BNSFdude]

Not sure on the difference on tonnes and US Ton, but our engines are usually 210 US Tons. Some being 232 Tons.

[SAR704]

Not sure about the Australian one. But I do 'like' single line running.

And the Port Augusta to Peterborough route would be great since it doesn't require so many buildings, unless you go down to Adelaide.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiR5nube33E&t=119s

Australia uses UK standards (except miles per hour) for railways as that is our 'motherland', but we have mostly American equipment. Some new stuff from China is coming and has arrived too.

Australian used imperial measurements until around 1970. The current Port Augusta to Peterborough (and Broken Hill) was built when the line was converted to standard gauge in the 1970s.

At Gladstone, from 1970 there were three individual gauges (3'6, 4'8, 5'3) until around the time the Wilmington line was closed. I think it is just a loop nowadays. Port Augusta had a junction where NG and SG diverged, but it has plenty of shunting potential. Unfortunately, it is a PITA to get SAR/Commonwealth Railways track diagrams nowadays, but there might be some on the internet.

In short, it would be nice to see Australia gain some recognition in a modern sim that isn't Trainz! I also heard some news about a new sim in the works (not DTG), but have heard nothing since.

[SAR704]

Well if DTG don't do anything Australian I may just have a go at it-Port Augusta to Broken Hill. Well the Peterborough part.

And suburban routes around our capital cities would be a great idea too. Brisbane is bigger than Perth, and Melbourne and Sydney are huge. New Zealand would do well too since they have a new electrification and they bought some rolling stock from WA 20 years ago (DMUs).

Whilst this discussion may be going off topic, It's been years since I have worked on a route for hours daily, and nowadays it's a little bit more daunting for me to do so. I can still manage it, but at the same time, I feel as though the route I'm working on is no challenge whatsoever, when one compares it to the type of routes I have modeled in MSTS. I should admit though that I chose this line specifically for this reason.

Ironically, I did make a start on the exact same portion of line you mentioned, but it was a bit long for my liking (around the 250km mark). Peterborough was the biggest PITA of a town to model in MSTS to me, due to the number of custom buildings it required to make it look realistic (In MSTS). However, Quorn in TS is not exactly a 5 minute job!

At the moment, I'd be fine with one realistic looking Australian route, with Australian gum trees and landscapes. Apart from Scaleroad, I use custom assets almost exclusively. If I knew of a way to depict realistic looking leaves in 3d trees, I would probably build some, as my 2d trees are the same design as the first ones I made back in 2005, just with more 'refined' textures.

[buzz456]

Hey guys if you want to keep talking about this feel free. Just please take it where it belongs.

[VITORMARQUES]

Nothing new about TSW? What is happening?

[AmericanSteam]

This thread is as dead as the Cumberland hump yard.