Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

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Re: Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:45 pm

"Also, I may be alone in this, but I have purchased payware add ons because of a free repaint that I really wanted, even if I had little interest in the core pack."

You do not walk alone. !*salute*!
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Re: Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

Unread postby JerryC » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:56 pm

No disrespect intended towards this Forum, which is well moderated. There are others, however, that are not so much...
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Re: Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

Unread postby BNSFdude » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:47 pm

Hyland is a **.
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Re: Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:49 pm

BNSFdude wrote:Hyland is a **.
Certified or certifiable I'm not sure which.
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Re: Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

Unread postby AmericanSteam » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:59 pm

buzz456 wrote:"Also, I may be alone in this, but I have purchased payware add ons because of a free repaint that I really wanted, even if I had little interest in the core pack."

You do not walk alone. !*salute*!

As is your option. Others may have opinions different from yours. We shall see if the economics of the situation(the driving factor here) will shape any or all future releases.
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Re: Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

Unread postby AmericanSteam » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:14 pm

katyusha454 wrote:
NStrains wrote:Wow guys,
At this point, I hope you don't completely drive RRMods out of Railworks all together. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Don't have to bitch and moan about someones business model. Get out there and do it yourselves if you have a better way or better product, seriously... This thread is embarrassing to read as a RMA memeber.


I would rather they be driven out if that's what is necessary to avoid normalizing repaint bans. This community wouldn't exist if it wasn't for all the modders. Choking off modding will kill the hobby if it becomes widespread. Just look at the general lack of interest in TSW; a lot of that is because it's impossible to make our own content for it.
AS to TSW the issues are deeper than this superfluous argument.
AS to RRMods, I can't see why anybody would want to drive anybody out. This sounds like a threat. These are not members of the forum making repaints, they are producing original content that they have a right to protect. If you do not want to comply with the "Terms and Conditions" it is your option. Do not purchase it. Let economics take its course.
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Re: Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

Unread postby ColoradoRailfan » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:14 pm

So people are bashing RRMods for not allowing repaints to be distrubuted, while RRMods say that they make it like that so each repaint is prototypical to each railroad scheme? !*not-ok*!

Don't you guys want realism? RRMods are doing a great job so far.

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Re: Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:24 pm

ColoradoRailfan wrote:So people are bashing RRMods for not allowing repaints to be distrubuted, while RRMods say that they make it like that so each repaint is prototypical to each railroad scheme? !*not-ok*!

Don't you guys want realism? RRMods are doing a great job so far.

Thats my opinion.

No one is "bashing" RRMods. Some of us just have a difference of opinion with their business model. It's still mostly a free country and we are all entitled to our opinions here as long as we express them politely.
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Re: Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

Unread postby SOO704 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:10 pm

Well if you look at RRMods Trainz site. the same Model. it doesn't say No Repaints?.....as it does on Railworks RRMods site. And its half the price of the Railworks GP40-2. So I don't get it **!!bang!!**
I will wait to buy....Am more interested in their Freight Cars.... I need more!
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Re: Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

Unread postby jalsina » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:35 pm

SOO704 wrote:Well if you look at RRMods Trainz site. the same Model. it doesn't say No Repaints?.....as it does on Railworks RRMods site. And its half the price of the Railworks GP40-2. So I don't get it **!!bang!!**
I will wait to buy....Am more interested in their Freight Cars.... I need more!
http://www.rrmods.us/product/up-gp40-2-phase-ii-ex-sp/


I don´t know, but the difference in price might be Trainz do no have the quality of sounds and flares that the Railworks model has?
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Re: Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

Unread postby AmericanSteam » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:46 am

Is anyone having smoke color issues with the GP40 Phase II? Mine are a yellow hue and not black/gray as expected.
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Re: Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

Unread postby bnsfsubdivision » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:58 am

AmericanSteam wrote:Is anyone having smoke color issues with the GP40 Phase II? Mine are a yellow hue and not black/gray as expected.
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Re: Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

Unread postby AmericanSteam » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:20 pm

I read that however as per the screenshot the lead locomotive is the color and texture I would expect to see but the two trailing always stay this unnatural yellow no mater how long they are driven.
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Re: Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

Unread postby bnsfsubdivision » Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:06 pm

AmericanSteam wrote:I read that however as per the screenshot the lead locomotive is the color and texture I would expect to see but the two trailing always stay this unnatural yellow no mater how long they are driven.

The engine will only not heat up if the isolation switch is set in START/STOP/ISOLATE so not sure what's going on there.
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Re: Union Pacific GP40 Phase 2 Out on 11/30/17

Unread postby AmericanSteam » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:31 pm

Thank you for the hint. Needed to set the trailing units to run. I now get gray/black exhaust after warm up about 6-8 minutes into a run. The yellowish exhaust still looks off color. It is what it is. *!!thnx!!*
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