Page 1 of 2

Route Merging

Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:00 pm
by UPSD70ACe
Hi all I was wondering how easy is it to merge Route together? I have 2 Routes I would like to merge I heard you can use RWTools.But mine expired I Cannot afford to get the full version. Is there any other way to do this merge the Routes?

Re: Route Merging

Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:04 pm
by Bananarama
You might be able to if the route start points are at the same location, otherwise forget it.

Re: Route Merging

Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:13 pm
by UPSD70ACe
I want to merge the Routes I made Pacific Surfliner Amtrak California.The Surfliner start in San Diego to San Louis Obispo, The Amtrak California starts in Bakersfield to San Jose but. I just want to make a Coast Starlight Route Seattle to Los Angeles. So how do I merge the Surfliner with the Amtrak California Route That is what I want to Merge? I also have the Seattle Route freeware one of course.

Re: Route Merging

Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:48 pm
by 1225fan5358
FREEWARE? I never had the silly password for the route because I haven't bought any of eyeins stuff....yet. How'd you get a Seattle route for free?

Re: Route Merging

Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:33 pm
by UPSD70ACe
Cause I downloaded the Route but I do not have the donation ware assets.I just have the freeware assets only you. You can download the Route but you just will not have the donation ware assets.Witch I could not afford.

Re: Route Merging

Unread postPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:34 am
by UPSD70ACe
Can we get back on topic here, I just would like to know how too add too add Los Angeles too Seattle using my. Surfliner Route I made & the Amtrak California Route I made. So I can run Trains from Seattle too Los Angeles? I was hoping maybe someone here could help me.

Re: Route Merging

Unread postPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:21 am
by artimrj
You can't. They have different starting points like Hack told you. They both have to start at the same lat and lon, and thats kind of impossible.

Re: Route Merging

Unread postPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:50 am
by UPSD70ACe
How can they be the same lat lon there different coordinates.

Re: Route Merging

Unread postPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:48 am
by artimrj
They can't. Thats why you can't merge two routes. That is what we are trying to tell you.

Re: Route Merging

Unread postPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:54 am
by UPSD70ACe
Okay now I understand wish there was a way.I can add the Los Angeles section too the Amtrak California Route.

Re: Route Merging

Unread postPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:49 pm
by artimrj
My theory. You have 1 route starting at point A and another at point B. If you took route A and added the blank space to it to reach the other route's location, then change the starting point of route A, you would be able to merge them together as then route A and B would have the same starting location. Half or more of the route A would be blank. The half that is blank is where route B would merge in. The new starting spot would be route B's starting point.

Of course I have no idea if this will work or how much effort it would be to put all the blank area in for merging. To me it sounds like it would work though.

Re: Route Merging

Unread postPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:06 pm
by buzz456
I don't quite understand why you don't just jump out of the one route and then into the next one but maybe your attention span is linger than mine.

Re: Route Merging

Unread postPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:38 pm
by PapaXpress
We already spoke about this when Donner Pass first came out. The idea back then was to link my route which ends in Roseville to DP, and then to the Reno Sparks route that was being made by someone here. It would tie together because Roseville and Reno are natural places which you could do a crew change, and thus change routes in RW.

Re: Route Merging

Unread postPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:55 pm
by Irondale
Claudio Mussa, who is a member here, has a program from his site called "RW Merge Route".
Almost to the bottom of his front page you will see the link.
http://www.mcs-software.it/rs/index.htm
Its free to try, he is just asking for a donation. !!*ok*!!

Re: Route Merging

Unread postPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:58 pm
by mikesimpson
Irondale wrote:Claudio Mussa, who is a member here, has a program from his site called "RW Merge Route".
Almost to the bottom of his front page you will see the link.
http://www.mcs-software.it/rs/index.htm
Its free to try, he is just asking for a donation. !!*ok*!!



His method still requires that both routes have the same starting point.

To explain why the route's can't be merged. Each route has a starting point when the author first sets it up. All of the tiles in the route are based on this lat/long with the tile +000000+000000.bin having this lat/long as its bottom left hand corner.

All other tiles are offset from this point, and all scenery items/tracks etc within a tile are offsets from the bottom left of each tile. Unlike MSTS, nothing is placed using the actual lat/long of the object.

Therefore the 2 routes you are trying to merge have completely different offsets within the tiles, and while it might be theoretically possible to calculate the changes in offsets required to merge the 2 routes, the fact that the earth is not flat and that the lines of longitude are not parallel makes it a virtually impossible task.

Mike