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RSC SD70 packs

Unread postPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:36 am
by NickF
Hopefully someone here can straighten me out.

I see a number of repaints and mods for the SD70 packs Vol 1, 2, and 3. Usually the readme files say these are available at Steam. I have both the SD70ACe and the SD70 vol 2 DLC. So what is the Vol 3 stuff, and where does it come from?

What am I missing?

Re: RSC SD70 packs

Unread postPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:41 am
by arizonachris
There is no v.3 that I know of, Nick, unless it's from a third party. I have v.1 and v.2 and several repaints. Oh, maybe they mean the MAC?

EDIT: I see mention of a v.3 in other topics, but I have no idea where it is. I searched the Steam Store, it's not there, unless it's included in the v.2. Or it's a third party creation. !*don-know!*

Re: RSC SD70 packs

Unread postPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:33 am
by NickF
Maybe Machinist or Krellnut can answer this.

Re: RSC SD70 packs

Unread postPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:49 am
by Chacal
SD70Pack03 comes with SD70Pack02.

Re: RSC SD70 packs

Unread postPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:21 am
by Machinist
@Nick, was a pain to me find on Steam DLC the packs and their correct names to put them in the SD70 10-Engine Pack's Readme, so I asked for Krellnut help.

What I can say is that I've bought:
a) the Vol. 2 a long time ago and got either Pack02 and Pack03 installed. It's name on Steam is SD70 Volume 2 Add-on, however in the content description is mentioned only the engines of Pack02. !*don-know!* I no longer recall, but the inclusion of Pack03 was (and looks like still is) a bonus for Vol.2 owners.
b) couple months ago the SD70ACe add-on which is the Pack01, due the pic of DRGW engine, however there is no description available of the content of this pack, the link on Steam is currently broken.

IIRC I never mentioned Vol. 3 or Vol.1 as for me they don't exist officially, I use to say Pack01, Pack02 and Pack03 once these are the folders name (products of the RSC provider folder).

Bottom line: on Steam DLC area there are only two "Volumes" or "itens" (?!?!) for SD70 available, however they hold all the 3 RSC SD70 packs. It's confused indeed. !*salute*!

Doc.

Re: RSC SD70 packs

Unread postPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:22 am
by micaelcorleone
Chacal wrote:SD70Pack03 comes with SD70Pack02.

Yes, it does.

The "SD70 Volume 2 Addon" includes both packs.
You can only see the two packs in the Asset list as "SD70Pack02" and "SD70Pack03", while the latter only includes the SD70Mac.

Re: RSC SD70 packs

Unread postPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:15 pm
by NickF
Thanks. When I looked in my RSC assets I saw folders for 1, 2, and 3, and wondered how I got 3, since I only bought 1 and 2.

That clarifies things.

Re: RSC SD70 packs

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:26 am
by Kali
Is the RW ACe an actual different model to the M-2?

Re: RSC SD70 packs

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:50 pm
by Haystack
The SD70 vol 2 pack says it comes with a SD70ACe. Is it the same one as the SD70ACe pack?

Re: RSC SD70 packs

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:02 pm
by Chacal
I'm thoroughly confused as to why there isn't only one SD70 pack with all variants in it.

Re: RSC SD70 packs

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:05 pm
by Kali
Mmm, forgot there was an ACe in pack2, I presume it's the same other than a different livery? how many real ACe variants are there anyway?

Re: RSC SD70 packs

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:37 pm
by Machinist
In real life I have no minimal idea which is the difference between ACe and M-2. The cab in game is the same, though the exterior even of M-2 models are different (CN has headlights on nose, and NS on roof), the difference must be in traction.

SD70ACe Vol. 2 add-on comes with four engines of Pack02: SD70-2ACe (BNSF and BNSF Whisper) and SD70M-2 (CN and NS). If it is right, or wrong, I don't know and don't care.... *!!wink!!* and also, as explained above, with one engine of Pack03: SD70MAC BNSF.

Doc.

Re: RSC SD70 packs

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:48 pm
by thecanadianrail
Machinist wrote:In real life I have no minimal idea which is the difference between ACe and M-2. The cab in game is the same, though the exterior even of M-2 models are different (CN has headlights on nose, and NS on roof), the difference must be in traction.

Doc.


The only true difference between an ACe and a M-2 is the type of traction they use, obviously the ACe's use AC traction while the M-2's use DC traction. the minor variations differ between railroads prefrences and are not specific to the model, and even vary between road numbers! (ex: CN SD70M-2's #8000-8024 have no DPU lights while the #8800's and higher have them, but all CN M-2's have the winter variations on them [snow covers over the rear air intake], while everybody else has it open, and another example is that some BNSF ACe's have a headlight while others have the nose light)

I am curious to see what the CN SD70ACe's that will be arriving later this year have for variations on them?