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Looking for a v-e-r-y old route

Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:24 pm
by OldProf
When I first discovered train simulation and what has eventually become Train Simulator, I downloaded, drove, and even made scenarios for a route the name of which I cannot even recall. All that I can remember of its late history is that it was more or less taken over by Ottodad, who extended it beyond measure until it no longer functioned. Does this strike anyone as familiar? If so, please post what you know in this thread, especially if the route's installation files are still available. I'd love to revisit it.

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

Re: Looking for a v-e-r-y old route

Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:39 pm
by buzz456
Sounds like Cajon Pass. He tortured it beyond all recognition as I recall.

Re: Looking for a v-e-r-y old route

Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:33 pm
by gtrtroger
Could have been the old PLE Route from Beaver Pa down to Cumberland MD.

Re: Looking for a v-e-r-y old route

Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:05 pm
by Chacal
Three candidates fit your description if my memory is correct:
- the P&LE and the Connellsville to Baltimore routes made and abandoned by Thomas Bontempo;
- the BSB Mojave route by Bill Putnam which was abandoned and became the Cajon Mojave by Tomcat, I think this is the one mentioned by Buzz.

See this thread on railsim.com

Re: Looking for a v-e-r-y old route

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:21 am
by aCup0fBlackTea
gtrtroger wrote:Could have been the old PLE Route from Beaver Pa down to Cumberland MD.

Is there still a place to download the PLE route?

Re: Looking for a v-e-r-y old route

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:36 am
by pjduplooy
Im currently using https://github.com/hartator/wayback-machine-downloader (wayback machine downloader) to see if I can resurrect the files. Just taking very long as I am downloading all snapshots.

Will keep you posted.

Edit: I could only get the CSX Mainline and the Putnam BSB Mojave routes.

Re: Looking for a v-e-r-y old route

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:21 am
by Tomcat
OldProf wrote:All that I can remember of its late history is that it was more or less taken over by Ottodad, who extended it beyond measure until it no longer functioned. Does this strike anyone as familiar? If so, please post what you know in this thread, especially if the route's installation files are still available. I'd love to revisit it.

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.


There was also Tennessee Pass by Jonathan Lewis that Ottodad had gotten his hands on and, as far as I'm concerned, proceeded to destroy. He did have it on his site at one point and predictably, during one of his temper tantrums, he took it down. I don't know if this particular version is still available anywhere.

There is a Tennessee Pass 2 in the file library here that is a scenery upgrade of Jonathan Lewis' original route done by Marc Simpson. I have not downloaded TP2 so I have no idea of what was changed from Ottodad's day.

http://railworksamerica.com/index.php/d ... collection


Here's a thread on Trainsim about it;

https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showthrea ... Pass-Route

Re: Looking for a v-e-r-y old route

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:03 pm
by Chacal
I have the P&LE final 2012 version. With asset files and a patch file. The whole thing is 819 MB.

Re: Looking for a v-e-r-y old route

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:12 pm
by aCup0fBlackTea
Chacal wrote:I have the P&LE final 2012 version. With asset files and a patch file. The whole thing is 819 MB.

That's amazing! Would you be able to host it on RWA or on another site?

Re: Looking for a v-e-r-y old route

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:12 pm
by pjduplooy
Here is a link to the following routes (See screenshot)

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jq3ziB ... sp=sharing

Re: Looking for a v-e-r-y old route

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:27 pm
by Railfan722
CSX Mainline has been available for quite some time on the Ohio Valley Rail System website, as has the P&LE. Not tried the second one, but CSX Mainline is quite old now and unfortunately it hasn't really held up all that well.
Screenshot_Connellsville to Baltimore_39.84948--79.05366_12-00-48.jpg

Screenshot_Connellsville to Baltimore_39.83409--79.04482_12-03-29.jpg

Screenshot_Connellsville to Baltimore_39.79728--78.97382_12-12-17.jpg

Scenery is sparse, and the trackwork is very rough in a number of spots. Still, the scope is admirable; the route goes as far as Connellsville in the west and Martinsburg in the east I believe, don't think it ever quite reached Baltimore.

Re: Looking for a v-e-r-y old route

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:35 pm
by Chacal
Since the P&LE is available on the Ohio Valley Rail System, maybe I don't need to post it.
I'll keep the files just in case.

Re: Looking for a v-e-r-y old route

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:05 am
by pjduplooy
Hi I cannot download the route from the ohiovalleysystem website. Anyone have a copy of it?

Re: Looking for a v-e-r-y old route

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:40 am
by Chacal
Which one?

Re: Looking for a v-e-r-y old route

Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:32 am
by pjduplooy
Any route that is on their site not linked externally, like the PLE