Los Angeles and San Diego Commuter Twin Pack problems

[MrMurphy]

I just bought LA and San Diego Commuter twin pack and what I have to say - in Metrolink F59PHI-s cabview all window textures are flickering. DTG has totally lost control over the production quality. I have seen many half finished model created by DTG but this add-on is just awful. Outer look is acceptable. But ... missing sounds, wrong sound balances and those flickering textures ... don't buy this before they've fixed everything. Models are fixional and without right branding. Okay that's not so big problem but the production quality!!! Don't do the mistake I did.

[dtrainBNSF1]

I'm now watching a video by FanRailer of a cab ride with the F59PH. The windows seem fine in the video -not flickering at all. Quite solid, actually. A little dark/tinted on the passenger cars, but otherwise fine. And the only fixes he's released for this pack is a physics upgrade. Check it out here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pothWxYCak8

[MrMurphy]

-not flickering at all. Quite solid, actually. A little dark/tinted on the passenger cars

I was talking about window texture flickering in cabview and not in outer view.

[arizonachris]

Pacific Surfliner isn't a twin pack, not sure what you mean by that. But I have it and there is no issue with in cab textures or flickering. I think "dtrain" meant that the passenger views look like the windows are tinted, they are a little dark. Look in the file library here for sound fixes, they are around. And the physics mod is also here in the library.

Maybe the flashing textures are a setting in TS2015 that was changed with the update? It did mess with some of my graphics settings on my PC.

[MrMurphy]

Pacific Surfliner isn't a twin pack

If You don't know then there's a special Commuter Twin-Pack available in Steam Store: http://store.steampowered.com/sub/51094
The F59PH I'm talking about is from this package. So I have informed - better wait until they've fixed all issues. The commuter-twin-pack has both Metrolink and Coaster trains without original branding.

[MrMurphy]

Few month ago I worked on soundset for F59PHI and Cabcar (Amtrak). Here's the ingame video where You can hear totally reworked and improved sounds for F59PHI. There are many other technical improvements made to this train model and Pacific Surfliner route: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBPvChS9LoU
And improved Cabcar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD5sowwas7k

[Antwerp]

all window textures are flickering.

I'm not having this issue.

When is it occurring and what does it look like when it's happening?

*Screenshots help*

[MrMurphy]

I'm not having this issue

Are You talking about internal or external view? The fliclering occurs in cabview and not in outer view.

[Antwerp]

I'm not having this issue

Are You talking about internal or external view? The fliclering occurs in cabview and not in outer view.

Not having the issue in the cab. Both of my units are fine.

[MrMurphy]

You can download the video where in-cab window texture flicker is well visible: http://www.mulgirailway.com/download/LA ... licker.zip

[dtrainBNSF1]

Okay I see it now. It's the edges that are flickering and not the windows themselves. I don't own the pack yet but any other video I've seen for the pack does not show that issue. But yet you are having a flicker. Weird...

I can see if you're very detail oriented how that could drive you nuts because in real life things don't flicker and typically what's seen can never be unseen.

Personally I've seen flickers in some of my stock but that doesn't make me personally flag it as a poorly developed piece of dlc and say "don't buy this" because I personally focus on whether or not the stock physically works. For me there's got to be more things wrong with it before I say anything like that. The flicker really isn't too noticeable if you don't focus on it.

Maybe I have too low of expectations of the stock and thus can be pleased too easily. What do you guys think?

[buzz456]

I think it's a video card setting or capability.

[MrMurphy]

Okay I see it now. It's the edges that are flickering and not the windows themselves. The flicker really isn't too noticeable if you don't focus on it.

Unfortunately this flickering is annoying. My copy of TS2015 is running on high-tech computer with big and high-res monitor. That's why I noticed this fault immediately when running first scenario. And sounds ... better not to comment. Some of them totally missing, some out of balance, no realistic distant fading effects. I'm just taking it as unfinished pruduct. I know this old story that pruducing takes time and time is money. But this kind of attention to quality leads to lack of interest.

Maybe I have too low of expectations of the stock and thus can be pleased too easily. What do you guys think?

The model is not freeware. I have paid for it and expect payware quality. If You want to know what I'm expecting from payware then take for comaprision some add-ons like Armstrong Powerhouse Class 321 or AP/Waggonz Class 90/DVT. Or VirtualRailroads products from German market. Fantastic job. Not only great models but also great cabs, superb soundsets and realism in functionality. That's what I'm expecting. Unfortunately US add-ons leave lot desired in quality, in functionality and in sound - almost in every aspect but outer look. The Pacific Surfliner rolling stock was pretty good and really first time I felt something start to change. Now with those Commuter packs I'm losing enthusiasm. Many cab equipments don't work or work wrong way (for example engine stop/start button in F59PH model). Those flickering windows seems to be very little problem compared to missing functionality but it's still annoying. Why not to finalise the product and then start to sell something? I'm really not happy with those products. They need lot more work to do. Two days ago payware Scottish West Highland line was released - superb route + superb rolling stock and radio based signalling system. Fantastic job. Pacific Surfliner was very promising route-pack but payware US rolling stock producers have to raise quality bar significantly. Sometimes seems to me there's too less attention on important details like sound.

[MrMurphy]

I think it's a video card setting or capability.

If so then why all other rolling stock add-ons are working 100% without flicker? Capability ... no way. My video card is 680 GTX 2Gb OC which is more than enough. Driver is the newest one. And most important - no porblems with other train models. Bad settings should affect every model installed. I'm not only person who has this problem. I've got feedback from other TS2015 players they have the same issue. I tested F59PHI on my sons computer (with NVidia 660 Ti OC) and window edges are flickering there too. I don't wonder why those packages were hold back so long. Sure there were not only livery licensing problems. I already was in contact with RSC/DTG team member and he was aware of issues with F59PH. So I hope fix is coming soon. The model looks very good externally and needs only right branding.

[buzz456]

Who else has this problem? Not I.