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Shays Or Other Geared Locos?

Posted:
Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:48 am
by NorthernWarrior
Do we know if there are currently any available for RW-TS, from any source?
Reason for asking, I'm currently building something based very loosely on the Tamalpais and Muir Woods Railway (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tama ... ds_Railway ) in Trainz, but not very happy at how it looks having taken a quick test drive this morning. Really want to have a crack in TS2014 but the prototype had up to 7% grades and curvature < 50m radius and was worked by a combination of Shay locos and gravity propulsion. From what I can see it is going to be very difficult to find anything for TS2014 that can cope with those conditions. One solution might be to do as the prototype intended and electrify the route, but would have to be compromised to use main line style locos (perhaps the AEM7 from the NEC) or EMU's as apart from the one freeware PCC style streetcar at UKTS there isn't much in the way of trolley/tram stuff either.
Re: Shays Or Other Geared Locos?

Posted:
Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:15 am
by mrennie
NorthernWarrior wrote:Do we know if there are currently any available for RW-TS, from any source?
Reason for asking, I'm currently building something based very loosely on the Tamalpais and Muir Woods Railway (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tama ... ds_Railway ) in Trainz, but not very happy at how it looks having taken a quick test drive this morning. Really want to have a crack in TS2014 but the prototype had up to 7% grades and curvature < 50m radius and was worked by a combination of Shay locos and gravity propulsion. From what I can see it is going to be very difficult to find anything for TS2014 that can cope with those conditions. One solution might be to do as the prototype intended and electrify the route, but would have to be compromised to use main line style locos (perhaps the AEM7 from the NEC) or EMU's as apart from the one freeware PCC style streetcar at UKTS there isn't much in the way of trolley/tram stuff either.
Hi Vern,
Yes, Britkits (Dick Cowen) has some Shays.
Re: Shays Or Other Geared Locos?

Posted:
Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:33 am
by fraserm
mrennie wrote:Hi Vern,
Yes, Britkits (Dick Cowen) has some Shays.
Vern - this link will take you directly to Dick's steam page:
http://www.dickyjim.com/page26.htmlCheck out his other stuff too. you'll like it all! (IMHO...)
Best,
Marc
Re: Shays Or Other Geared Locos?

Posted:
Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:45 am
by gwgardner
I just posted in this forum several screenshots of the Britkit Shay B on the 6% grades of my Railworks route, Cimarron & Pacific. Take a look in the screenshots sub-forum, the 'any era' thread.
The ShayB will push up to four empty ore cars up that grade. Probably would handle more logging flats.
Re: Shays Or Other Geared Locos?

Posted:
Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:59 pm
by NorthernWarrior
That looks very promising.
I think Mr Cowen may be getting a visit from my wallet in next months train simming allowance!
Re: Shays Or Other Geared Locos?

Posted:
Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:17 pm
by Toripony
There are also repaints of Dick's shays in the library here:
http://railworksamerica.com/index.php/d ... e-repaintsWe run them on the very curvy COA BLC logging track at up to 9% grade. Be careful to smooth out the grade changes on your track.
Re: Shays Or Other Geared Locos?

Posted:
Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:11 pm
by gwgardner
How long a consist can the ShayB handle on the 9% grade?
Re: Shays Or Other Geared Locos?

Posted:
Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:24 pm
by Toripony
Sorry, I can't really answer that. I've only ran it with the Skeleton Log car from GN and only brought 3 loaded cars down the hill (w/car hand brakes on); never tried taking loads up the hill since that wouldn't make sense. On this particular hill on the BLC section, the limitation is space... only about 4 car lengths fit in the switchback.
Re: Shays Or Other Geared Locos?

Posted:
Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:30 am
by NorthernWarrior
Having done a quick terrain extract for the Tamalpais, I suspect it might be just a little extreme for RW-TS. Some of the curves are down to around 25m which would be tight, even for narrow gauge so goodness knows how they got even SG Shays and cars up there. The only track rule which offers a radius that tight is Ryo's tram one and for a route intended to go on Workshop it needs to be taken from an available built in or DLC route, not third party or your own mashup.
Will do a bit more research - there's a couple of coal branches in West Virginia (Keeney's Creek for one) that were operated by Shays which could offer a slightly less extreme option.
Re: Shays Or Other Geared Locos?

Posted:
Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:28 pm
by PamBrooker
NorthernWarrior, are you a Marinite??? My old stomping grounds.. Lived there from 73 - 85.. I still consider it one of my all time favorite places..