RS Respond to Donner Pass Feedback

[Hawk]

Here's a link directly to the post that details what has been addressed in the patch for Donner Pass.

viewtopic.php?p=39576#p39576

[NDORFN]

I've noticed an improvement in the superelevation... anyone else?

[_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha]

Yes, it has been reduced to 2 degrees maximum cant, a realistic value for a low speed line like Donner. It was 4 degrees in the first release. Cab swing/track uneveness has also been reduced making for a smoother ride. Also, some of the vertical transitions seem to have been smoothed out too.

Now only some unrealistic curves, s-curves and bridge approaches need to be relaid. I am sure there are accurate track charts and SP track rules available.

[bristolian]

The patch was an automatic download the first time you start up Steam. The user shouldn't have to do anything. It is a good idea to verify the cache prior to playing donner Pass.

Duncan

Thank you Duncan,

Very Best Wishes,
Bob.

[MontanaRails]

Well, stupidly, I replaced the DonnerPass.bin (track network file) with one from the first release that I had modified, because I didnt see any track related changes on the release notes for the first patch. And didnt save a backup. Can someone paste the contents of the updated donnerpass.bin file so I can see what's changed...so I dont have to verify cache for one file?

[Samwolf]

Well, stupidly, I replaced the DonnerPass.bin (track network file) with one from the first release that I had modified, because I didnt see any track related changes on the release notes for the first patch. And didnt save a backup. Can someone paste the contents of the updated donnerpass.bin file so I can see what's changed...so I dont have to verify cache for one file?

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<cBlueprintLoader xmlns:d="http://www.kuju.com/TnT/2003/Delta" d:version="1.0">
<Blueprint>
<cTrackRulesBlueprint>
<TrackTypes>
<iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID d:id="40559928">
<BlueprintSetID>
<iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
<Provider d:type="cDeltaString">RSC</Provider>
<Product d:type="cDeltaString">DonnerPass</Product>
</iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
</BlueprintSetID>
<BlueprintID d:type="cDeltaString">RailNetwork\Track\Track01.xml</BlueprintID>
</iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
<iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID d:id="40560568">
<BlueprintSetID>
<iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
<Provider d:type="cDeltaString">RSC</Provider>
<Product d:type="cDeltaString">DonnerPass</Product>
</iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
</BlueprintSetID>
<BlueprintID d:type="cDeltaString">RailNetwork\Track\Track02.xml</BlueprintID>
</iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
<iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID d:id="40561208">
<BlueprintSetID>
<iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
<Provider d:type="cDeltaString">RSC</Provider>
<Product d:type="cDeltaString">DonnerPass</Product>
</iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
</BlueprintSetID>
<BlueprintID d:type="cDeltaString">RailNetwork\Track\Track03.xml</BlueprintID>
</iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
</TrackTypes>
<DefaultTrackType>
<iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
<BlueprintSetID>
<iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
<Provider d:type="cDeltaString">RSC</Provider>
<Product d:type="cDeltaString">DonnerPass</Product>
</iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
</BlueprintSetID>
<BlueprintID d:type="cDeltaString">RailNetwork\Track\Track01.xml</BlueprintID>
</iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
</DefaultTrackType>
<DefaultLineType>
<Network-iTrackNetworkLineType-cPropertyValue>
<LineType d:type="cDeltaString">MainLine</LineType>
</Network-iTrackNetworkLineType-cPropertyValue>
</DefaultLineType>
<DefaultSpeedLimit>
<Network-iTrackNetworkSpeedLimit-cPropertyValue>
<Primary d:type="sInt32">30</Primary>
<Secondary d:type="sInt32">25</Secondary>
</Network-iTrackNetworkSpeedLimit-cPropertyValue>
</DefaultSpeedLimit>
<DefaultLineDirection>
<Network-iTrackNetworkLineDirection-cPropertyValue>
<LineDirection d:type="cDeltaString">Both</LineDirection>
</Network-iTrackNetworkLineDirection-cPropertyValue>
</DefaultLineDirection>
<DefaultElectrification>
<Network-iTrackNetworkElectrification-cPropertyValue>
<Electrification d:type="cDeltaString">None</Electrification>
</Network-iTrackNetworkElectrification-cPropertyValue>
</DefaultElectrification>
<DefaultSCollision>
<Network-iTrackNetworkSpecialCollision-cPropertyValue>
<SpecialCollision d:type="cDeltaString">Off</SpecialCollision>
</Network-iTrackNetworkSpecialCollision-cPropertyValue>
</DefaultSCollision>
<DefaultSuperelevation>
<Network-iTrackNetworkSuperelevation-cPropertyValue>
<MaxCantAngleDegrees d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000000040" d:precision="string">2.0000</MaxCantAngleDegrees>
<CurveToAnglePercent d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000003440" d:precision="string">20.0000</CurveToAnglePercent>
</Network-iTrackNetworkSuperelevation-cPropertyValue>
</DefaultSuperelevation>
<DefaultRideQuality>
<Network-iTrackNetworkRideQuality-cPropertyValue>
<LineUnevenness d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000804140" d:precision="string">35.0000</LineUnevenness>
</Network-iTrackNetworkRideQuality-cPropertyValue>
</DefaultRideQuality>
<GradientValue d:type="cDeltaString">Percent</GradientValue>
<SpeedUnitValue d:type="cDeltaString">MPH</SpeedUnitValue>
<TrackGauge d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="00000080C2F5F63F" d:precision="string">1.4350</TrackGauge>
<ParallelDistance d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000001240" d:precision="string">4.5000</ParallelDistance>
<MainLineTrackLimits>
<iTrackRulesBlueprint-sCurvatureLimits>
<MaxSpeedTolerance d:type="sUInt32">70</MaxSpeedTolerance>
<MinRadius d:type="sUInt32">500</MinRadius>
</iTrackRulesBlueprint-sCurvatureLimits>
</MainLineTrackLimits>
<YardTrackLimits>
<iTrackRulesBlueprint-sCurvatureLimits>
<MaxSpeedTolerance d:type="sUInt32">15</MaxSpeedTolerance>
<MinRadius d:type="sUInt32">75</MinRadius>
</iTrackRulesBlueprint-sCurvatureLimits>
</YardTrackLimits>
<PassengerTrackLimits>
<iTrackRulesBlueprint-sCurvatureLimits>
<MaxSpeedTolerance d:type="sUInt32">25</MaxSpeedTolerance>
<MinRadius d:type="sUInt32">250</MinRadius>
</iTrackRulesBlueprint-sCurvatureLimits>
</PassengerTrackLimits>
<FreightTrackLimits>
<iTrackRulesBlueprint-sCurvatureLimits>
<MaxSpeedTolerance d:type="sUInt32">25</MaxSpeedTolerance>
<MinRadius d:type="sUInt32">100</MinRadius>
</iTrackRulesBlueprint-sCurvatureLimits>
</FreightTrackLimits>
<SuperElevation d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000C06240" d:precision="string">150.0000</SuperElevation>
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<Provider d:type="cDeltaString"></Provider>
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</BlueprintSetID>
<BlueprintID d:type="cDeltaString"></BlueprintID>
</iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
</CatenaryBlueprint>
<ThirdRailBlueprint>
<iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
<BlueprintSetID>
<iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
<Provider d:type="cDeltaString"></Provider>
<Product d:type="cDeltaString"></Product>
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</BlueprintSetID>
<BlueprintID d:type="cDeltaString"></BlueprintID>
</iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
</ThirdRailBlueprint>
<FourthRailBlueprint>
<iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
<BlueprintSetID>
<iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
<Provider d:type="cDeltaString"></Provider>
<Product d:type="cDeltaString"></Product>
</iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
</BlueprintSetID>
<BlueprintID d:type="cDeltaString"></BlueprintID>
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</FourthRailBlueprint>
<ManualJunctionEntity>
<iTrackRulesBlueprint-sPatternEntityDesc>
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<BlueprintSetID>
<iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
<Provider d:type="cDeltaString">RSC</Provider>
<Product d:type="cDeltaString">DonnerPass</Product>
</iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
</BlueprintSetID>
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</iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
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<Product d:type="cDeltaString">DonnerPass</Product>
</iBlueprintLibrary-cBlueprintSetID>
</BlueprintSetID>
<BlueprintID d:type="cDeltaString">RailNetwork\Junctions\Automatic_Junction_Motor.xml</BlueprintID>
</iBlueprintLibrary-cAbsoluteBlueprintID>
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<TrackSpeedLimitColours/>
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<Italian d:type="cDeltaString"></Italian>
<German d:type="cDeltaString"></German>
<Spanish d:type="cDeltaString"></Spanish>
<Dutch d:type="cDeltaString"></Dutch>
<Polish d:type="cDeltaString"></Polish>
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<Russian d:type="cDeltaString"></Russian>
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<Key d:type="cDeltaString"></Key>
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</Description>
<Category d:type="cDeltaString">eUncategorised</Category>
<ValidInScenarios d:type="cDeltaString">eFalse</ValidInScenarios>
</iBrowseableBlueprint-cBrowseInformation>
</BrowseInformation>
</cTrackRulesBlueprint>
</Blueprint>
</cBlueprintLoader>

[MontanaRails]

Thanks! I appreciate it.

Thats strange though - its exactly the same as my copy from the first release of Donner, except for the super-elevation being reduced from 4 to 2. Nothing else seems to have been modified. Hmm...

[Kali]

<SuperElevation d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000C06240" d:precision="string">150.0000</SuperElevation>

Um? wish I knew what that parameter was actually for, but that's a big number for anything SE related :p

[MontanaRails]

Um? wish I knew what that parameter was actually for, but that's a big number for anything SE related :p

I'd like to know too. In the HSC route, this value is "0". And, the .bin file is in the 'trackrules' folder, not the 'track' folder...