Trainsimulator 2012

[TDHenderson]

I really don't understand why everyone who is stuck on MSTS or Trainz HATES RW so much. I don't see us bashing on them....much, what's their ** problem(s)(I assume they have more than just one problem if they have to go to war against a simulator)? ...sheesh....

Sim-envy?

[ca2kjet]

I really don't understand why everyone who is stuck on MSTS or Trainz HATES RW so much. I don't see us bashing on them....much, what's their ** problem(s)(I assume they have more than just one problem if they have to go to war against a simulator)? ...sheesh....

That was one of the reasons I made my way to RW. I saw so much bashing of other products on the Trainz forums that I didn't want to be around that. Putting down someone or something else simply because you don't like it is a subconscious way of admitting that you don't believe in yourself or your choice.

[Chacal]

It is pretty amazing that the release will actually happen at the announced time.
This ain't no Duke Nukem Forever!

[Dan]

Hate is deep rooted in the railfan / foamer history. Stand trackside with a bunch of GEVO hatters and you'll see why I can only railfan with a select group of people... So bashing other rival train games / sim's is just a lateral move.

Also when a game has held the market by the neck for years. People fear change and thus can only bash. Hopefully TS2012 will change all that. I really would like Diesels West, Streamlines, or both to crank out some DLC.

I tend to agree with that. It's the same with companies - some people will hate CSX and love BNSF, love the LNER and hate the LMS. I don't know if it is the same with other hobbies. I certainly found the same tribalism when I used to work in preserved railways. In the end my reaction was 'sod this, this is supposed to be fun'.

I don't understand why some people get so worked up about a game.

Oh well. Looking forward to the update and seeing what is new :)

[Chessie8638]

Just a reminder if you have trouble downloading the update, try to change your download region to get faster speeds and or an actual connection instead of "not available":

View > Settings > Downloads + Cloud > Download Region.


I'll be posting a review of the Horseshoe Curve and will do a video (if Fraps and TS2012 are nice to each other).

[Shortliner]

The sad thing is that reading around elsewhere it is clear that some people are going to download it just to find things to complain about, just to find the things that RW3 doesn't do etc which all in all is pretty depressing.

My advice is to simply ignore those people.

[ca2kjet]

That reminds me.. does anyone know how much the new Horseshoe Curve route will cost?

[TDHenderson]

That reminds me.. does anyone know how much the new Horseshoe Curve route will cost?

Believe the discounted release price is $14.99USD.

[ca2kjet]

Believe the discounted release price is $14.99USD.

Thanks

[Shortliner]

Believe the discounted release price is $14.99USD.

Hmmm, I'd be crazy not to buy it!

[MontanaRails]

Tori, very well put. Very well.

Its very clear to me that the developers have put forth great effort to make this not only a huge step forward for the community, but also do their very best to not put us back to a clean slate regarding add-ons. Personally, I dont think everything will still work...and we could lose a few things that we dont want to, but overall, the progress and new technologies will be worth it.

From the FAQ: "Why haven’t all the routes in RailWorks had all the new features added?

Unfortunately lots of add-on content (both from RailSimulator.com and other developers) use the core routes in RailWorks. If we make certain changes to these routes, we break lots of scenarios and so we have chosen, at this stage, to keep them in their current form. Of course, all new routes we make will make use of the new technology.

Will all my add-on content work?

We have worked very hard to ensure compatibility with existing add-on content. Most add-on content will work just fine, but if you encounter problems, we suggest switching the new graphics engine off when running legacy routes. We’re working on fixing these problems as quickly as we can."

Its a great idea (all things considered) to have a new/old graphics engine switch! If the content just wont work in the new engine, what could be better than just switching it off and running in the old one?

I plan on leaving my highly customized (but of course, backed up!) Railworks 2 folder just as it is, and seeing if I can get away with letting Train Sim 2012 blend itself into it with minimal fuss. If it seems to make a mess of things, I will hit that little button 'delete local content' and start from fresh. Love it or hate it, Steam does have some great features.

Again, I think it will be worth it.

Regardless of how the transition goes, I agree, its gonna be a late night tonight!

[MontanaRails]

Some of the photos they've posted recently just blow me away:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... =1&theater

[plethaus]

I'm not counting on this actually being released tonight, so I won't get my hopes up. If it actually goes up for download tonight, great, if not, tomorrow is A-OK with me.

[spec5sx]

The sad thing is that reading around elsewhere it is clear that some people are going to download it just to find things to complain about, just to find the things that RW3 doesn't do etc which all in all is pretty depressing.

Instead of complaining that the rosebush is full of thorns, be happy that the thorn bush has roses. ~Proverb

[shicoe30]

if everything goes as planned across the pond, I think we're like two hours or so from this whole shibang. but who knows... plan for the worst, hope for the best.