How many Empire Builder Packs ??

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How many Empire Builder Packs ??

Unread postby billy » Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:45 pm

I know this kinda of a foolish question, but how many of these packs are out there ??
I did a search here and other places and came up empty.
If they are nice I'd like to get them.
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Re: How many Empire Builder Packs ??

Unread postby buzz456 » Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:21 pm

RSC has two. Oops DTG.
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Re: How many Empire Builder Packs ??

Unread postby billy » Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:41 pm

Ok ,Thanks !!
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Re: How many Empire Builder Packs ??

Unread postby _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:30 am

There is also the SP F7 "Bloody Nose" from the Steam Marketplace. This engine comes in an asset collection named EmpireBuilderPack05.
Wrongly named, but probably the F7 from EmpireBuilderPack01 was used for the base model, which is again wrong because it hasn't SP specific features.
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Re: How many Empire Builder Packs ??

Unread postby JohnTrainHead » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:15 am

_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha wrote:which is again wrong because it hasn't SP specific features.


...which is why they added things like Ice Breakers to the model....
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Re: How many Empire Builder Packs ??

Unread postby Chacal » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:35 am

I do believe we also have all the freeware repaints for making your own Empire builder.
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Re: How many Empire Builder Packs ??

Unread postby _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha » Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:04 am

The confusion remains, we have:
EBPack01 - green/orange early GN Empire Builder (complete train)
EBPack02 - blue/white late GN Empire Builder (complete train)
EBPack05 - SP "bloody nose" F7 (loco only, IIRC)

What about EBPack03 and -04?

There still is a possibility for a green/white BN Empire Builder (complete train preferably), or did this train never exist because Amtrak took over in 1970?
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Re: How many Empire Builder Packs ??

Unread postby JohnTrainHead » Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:11 pm

_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha wrote:There still is a possibility for a green/white BN Empire Builder (complete train preferably), or did this train never exist because Amtrak took over in 1970?


Maybe for a VERY short time... but BN was only created two months before Amtrak.
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Re: How many Empire Builder Packs ??

Unread postby buzz456 » Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:23 pm

"The Empire Builder's most familiar paint scheme was the Omaha Orange and Pullman Green with a Gold stripe introduced in 1947 and used for the next 20 years. On May 11, 1967 the "Big Sky Blue" scheme (Blue-Grey and White) first appeared. The following year the Cascade Green and White paint scheme was applied to some equipment. It was considered experimental and a look at things to come, when on March 2, 1970, the Great Northern and three other rail lines merged into the Burlington Northern. The BN then operated the Empire Builder prior to Amtrak with a mixture of Big Sky Blue and the experimental Cascade Green and White paint schemes. "
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Re: How many Empire Builder Packs ??

Unread postby Bananarama » Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:48 pm

_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha wrote:but probably the F7 from EmpireBuilderPack01 was used for the base model

Which is ultimately based on my model, no?
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Unread postby _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha » Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:10 pm

Hack wrote:
_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha wrote:but probably the F7 from EmpireBuilderPack01 was used for the base model

Which is ultimately based on my model, no?


I suppose so. Your ATSF packs had some model variations which RSC never took over for their ATSF F7's.

It probably would have been better to have you build that SP F7 with a correct pilot and all that custom SP hardware instead of RSC repainting a GN model.
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Re: How many Empire Builder Packs ??

Unread postby buzz456 » Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:22 pm

If the Kuju one is based on your then yes. Textures lay right in there from Kuju to EB models.
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Re: How many Empire Builder Packs ??

Unread postby Bananarama » Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:06 pm

I sold RSC the ATSF model and assumed that all later releases were based on the original.

I would like to update the current one from my site (and add others), including mesh and textures, but I'm in need for some decent sound files. The originals were done by Ooovee back in the day, and they need a healthy audio boost. If I can get around this hurdle, then I can upload a beta and some needed bonus files.
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Re: How many Empire Builder Packs ??

Unread postby JohnTrainHead » Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:03 pm

Hack wrote:I sold RSC the ATSF model and assumed that all later releases were based on the original.

I would like to update the current one from my site (and add others), including mesh and textures, but I'm in need for some decent sound files. The originals were done by Ooovee back in the day, and they need a healthy audio boost. If I can get around this hurdle, then I can upload a beta and some needed bonus files.


I actually miss the old F7 sounds... the ones used before the upgrade to TS12/RW3, and I'd like to see them used again for something. :D
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