What TS2013 Add On Niches Are Not Being Served?

[Seria17hri11er]

Ozinoz:
You said

More historic routes, back in the time when there was varied power and activity - passenger, long haul / short haul / pick up freights etc. Now days is just A-B with block trains and boxes that all pretty much look the same.

Could you give me a example? I think my google skills are failing me and I need a point in the right direction.

With Gratitude
Nicholas

[artimrj]

Artimrj; Do you expect people out there to work hard to give you something for free? I would guess the reason the freeware niche is not being served is because there are few people that have enough income, free time, and enjoy creating the content.
Nicholas

I dont expect anything I just answered your question. A lot of people do freeware because they love the hobby. I put 19 months in a route that is here for free and am working on a second one. I dont use the hobby as a way of making money. And the quality of my route could have been payware, but I chose to give it away because thats the way I am.

[glenn68]

Artimrj; Do you expect people out there to work hard to give you something for free? I would guess the reason the freeware niche is not being served is because there are few people that have enough income, free time, and enjoy creating the content.
Nicholas

I dont expect anything I just answered your question. A lot of people do freeware because they love the hobby. I put 19 months in a route that is here for free and am working on a second one. I dont use the hobby as a way of making money. And the quality of my route could have been payware, but I chose to give it away because thats the way I am.

Bob,
I would be the same way.
Its just a hobby.
Glenn

[Seria17hri11er]

Artimrj; Do you expect people out there to work hard to give you something for free? I would guess the reason the freeware niche is not being served is because there are few people that have enough income, free time, and enjoy creating the content.
Nicholas

I dont expect anything I just answered your question. A lot of people do freeware because they love the hobby. I put 19 months in a route that is here for free and am working on a second one. I dont use the hobby as a way of making money. And the quality of my route could have been payware, but I chose to give it away because thats the way I am.

Copy that. That is good on you. However, I am not sure why you felt the need to post that the freeware niche is not being served. I do not see value added to the thread, as I clearly stated I was interested in starting a business in the first post. It almost seems like an insult thrown my way. It seems to say, "You don't love this hobby, or else you wouldn't be trying to make money off it."

For the record, I like rail simming, but as it stands now I do not "love" it. I do not like creating content, 3d modeling, programming and other sorts of things. I would like to bring something to everyone's table that they would really enjoy. I want to do that by hiring great people who themselves really enjoy rail simming. Call my position "Creative director" or what you will. Bottom line is I want to bring superior value to rail simmers in exchange for value. And if you could see the numbers for DLC purchases, you would see that a large number of simmers are quite happy to exchange value (currency) for value (DLC).

Respectfully
Nicholas

[artimrj]

Like I said, I was answering your question. We need freeware to keep the thing going. Thats what made the previous sim last for 12 years and it is still going strong. With MSTS I created a virtual railroad and wrote 500 activities and painted over 1000 pieces of rolling stock and it is all free. The people were so happy with it being free that they donated over $22,000 to me, go figure. So I used all that money to set up web sites for 5 of them and they are all free. And now this one, RWA is on my server and in my hands along with another man who also works for free to keep this place going so we have a nice community. I also support other free ware developers by giving them a place to put their products.

"You don't love this hobby, or else you wouldn't be trying to make money off it." are not my words. They are your interpretation of what you think I am thinking. You made 4 posts here. I do not know you from Adam, how could I know what your thinking? You asked a question and I gave you an answer. Anything you made that was freeware would be gladly excepted here and anywhere else. We do not have many freeware developers, they all keep going the payware route. If your payware is good enough then chances are it will be bought, all you have to do it get by all the critics who do not like throwing their money down for everything little thing that hits the market. Times are tough and they want value for their money. If you do that, give them the value, you will be OK, if not you will flounder.

[ex-railwayman]

as I clearly stated I was interested in starting a business in the first post. It almost seems like an insult thrown my way. It seems to say, "You don't love this hobby, or else you wouldn't be trying to make money off it."
For the record, I like rail simming, but as it stands now I do not "love" it. I do not like creating content, 3d modeling, programming and other sorts of things. I would like to bring something to everyone's table that they would really enjoy. I want to do that by hiring great people who themselves really enjoy rail simming. Call my position "Creative director" or what you will. Bottom line is I want to bring superior value to rail simmers in exchange for value. And if you could see the numbers for DLC purchases, you would see that a large number of simmers are quite happy to exchange value (currency) for value (DLC).

Respectfully
Nicholas

Just a cotton picking minute, do you work for RSC then, 'cos we don't know who you are, you've openly admitted you don't love Rail simming and don't like creating any content or 3D modelling, or, programming, so, what was the point of your thread then, you're just a waste of time, who hasn't even filled in his profile properly, I take it that you are British.
I've been here for years and could actively organise, if I felt like it, a company full of hired 3rd party developers and sub contractors, why should anyone work for you who offers themselves as how did you put it now a Creative Director, but, you have no Business experience, someone who turns up out of the blue, nobody knows you, and you have no enthusiasm and apparently no reason to get your hands dirty when you can hire others to do the work for you, sounds just like the currect RSC philosophy, why should you be any different.
If you don't love doing something then you won't make a successful business out of it, that's rule number 1 in any Business Practice, something that I learnt at the age of 30 back in the 1980's, when I started out setting up my first business, sounds as though you have a hell of a lot to learn if you want to start off any business project, may I suggest you go to Business School for several years before starting anything up, which at the moment to all tense and purposes is doomed to fail, taking a lot of very nice people down with you.
Leave the content creators and developers to their own devices, they've managed very adequately up until now, I don't think you can offer them anything they can't already obtain for themselves and as for making the statement - I would like to bring something to everyone's table that they would really enjoy, really, what's that then, seems like a complete load of old hogwash to me, especially, as it won't be you doing the hard work, but, just want the plaudits, and the money that goes with it, there's millions of folks doing that in Britain already, join the back of the queue.

Cheerz. ex-railwayman.

[buzz456]

This thread is beginning to sound a little like TS boys.

[dejoh]

I was just thinking that too. Its so negitive over there that after I visit their forum, I'm feeling rather bummed out.
Lets keep this place polite.

[Seria17hri11er]

"You don't love this hobby, or else you wouldn't be trying to make money off it." are not my words. They are your interpretation of what you think I am thinking.

Correct. I stated, "it seems like." And I was wrong. My apologies.

You made 4 posts here. I do not know you from Adam, how could I know what your thinking? You asked a question and I gave you an answer.

Correct. I should have just responded to your answer by saying, "if I had more income than I do now, and more free time than I do now, I would happily develop freeware."

Just a cotton picking minute, do you work for RSC then, 'cos we don't know who you are, you've openly admitted you don't love Rail simming and don't like creating any content or 3D modelling, or, programming, so, what was the point of your thread then, you're just a waste of time, who hasn't even filled in his profile properly, I take it that you are British.

Wow, a lot of assumptions there.

1. No I do not work for RSC. In regards to Steam DLC numbers I have been in contact with a popular DLC developer. He was very kind enough to share some basic information; that his sales for his products when placed on Steam crushed his sales through his website.

2. No, I am not British. Please don't stereotype people.

3. I like rail simming. Did you pause to consider I may be growing to love it? I have grown to love flight simming. I am a gear head, and I love all sorts of mechanical things and vehicles. I have a passion for these sorts of things. I am going to bring this passion to this project, just as I do with any voluntary project I undertake.

4. No one needs to like coding, and 3d modeling to want to bring something great to rail simming, or gaming, or whatever. There are people out there that have these skills and want to create great content. There are people out there doing these sorts of things as a hobby, and if you said to them, "I will pay you to create great content," they would be quite happy. In fact someone has already contacted me.

why should anyone work for you who offers themselves as how did you put it now a Creative Director, but, you have no Business experience, someone who turns up out of the blue, nobody knows you, and you have no enthusiasm and apparently no reason to get your hands dirty when you can hire others to do the work for you, sounds just like the currect RSC philosophy, why should you be any different.

1. I haven't posted any topic saying, "Seeking 3d modelers, coders, etc," and not given any data about myself/business. This thread is for research purposes. I am performing market research to see if there is a niche that no developers are creating content for. That is the first step, research. As I said, "I am considering creating my own add on business."

2. An organization/business does not only consist of those who "get their hands dirty." There are leaders and other persons who provide immense value to the organization, yet do not "get their hands dirty."

If you don't love doing something then you won't make a successful business out of it, that's rule number 1 in any Business Practice, something that I learnt at the age of 30 back in the 1980's, when I started out setting up my first business, sounds as though you have a hell of a lot to learn if you want to start off any business project, may I suggest you go to Business School for several years before starting anything up, which at the moment to all tense and purposes is doomed to fail, taking a lot of very nice people down with you.

1. Yup, rule number 1 if your starting your own business is to love what you do. As I said above "I am a gear head, and I love all sorts of mechanical things and vehicles."

2. I guess you think I am doomed to fail because you thought I have no passion or love for this project.

3. If I did fail, I wouldn't be taking people down with me. I wouldn't be hiring people full time and saying, "quit your day job! Your going to be rich." It would be a part time type of gig to begin with. It would be a source of extra income, not sole income for the folks I would be hiring.

as it won't be you doing the hard work, but, just want the plaudits, and the money that goes with it, there's millions of folks doing that in Britain already, join the back of the queue.

No sir, I give credit where credit is due. And I would not be taking all the money. I would give the folks I hire a royalty option. Royalty option is less dollar per hour, but with a percentage of all sales of products they develop. No royalty equals more dollar per hour with no royalties.

In conclusion it seems as though there are some quite crappy people out there standing on the shoulders of the creators of content for rail simmers. It seems as though you jumped to the conclusion that I was one of those persons out to exploit people. I am not here to do that. I ask you to not assume that I am one of those persons, and to take some time to get to know me.

Nick

[artimrj]

Well Nick, all that is left now is for you to show us something. And yes there are some "crappy" people out there. But you won't find many here. RWA is a more pleasant community than most.

[Chacal]

More scenarios for the "lesser" used routes especially the 3d party routes.
Bay of Quinte
Hedbourgh North
Donner Pass(once it's fixed)
Doncaster Works
Pikes Eagle Ridge
Soo Line
NSAND
MCSA
Fraser and Cariboo
IIR4
Big Horn Sub
Durango and Silverton
Fort Kent
Montour
Cimmeron Pacific

This.
There's a lot of rolling stock available, but it's for nothing if there's not enough scenarios using them.