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2013 Multicore?

Unread postby hminky » Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:47 pm

Is Railworks utilizing more than one core. I observe this:

Railworks doesn't eat it's lunch going into a populated tile.

Running Bay of Quinte going past the graveyard into the open field the FPS used to drop to 13 FPS while the game gagged now it doesn't get below 35 FPS.

Running HSC going into and passing trains in the yards the FPS stays in the thirties or above instead of going to 14 FPS

Running Sherman Hill another train hardly causes an FPS change.

Whatever the change there is a big improvement.

All this running highest detail setting as 2012 I couldn't get those results.

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Re: 2013 Multicore?

Unread postby buzz456 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:55 pm

Whatever is causing it you are right. Much improved performance. !!*ok*!!
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Re: 2013 Multicore?

Unread postby hminky » Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:07 pm

I thought the performance of 2012 was dreadful. I had taken it off my HD.

I always had a "micro-stutter" which made it unusable. It was like a vibration.

I took a chance and upgraded, buying Sherman Hill without seeing it.

Just knew it had to be better since Railworks2 showed so much improvement over the previous editions.

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Re: 2013 Multicore?

Unread postby artimrj » Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:17 pm

I have 6 physical cores and still only get the first mostly in use. And only 23% total. With the same settings I used before the update to 2013 I would get 14 fps drops in highly populated areas. Now it never drops below 20 and thats the built inFPS counter. On Sherman Hill I had a 40 car consist and had 2 ais go by with 80 car consists. I am locked at 30 FPS and the lowest it got with all that going on was 26. Even though it is not using very much CPU it still runs way better than before. The scenery all looks different to me somehow, I can not place my finger on it. I think I like it !*don-know!* I can not set AA higher than MSAA + 8 or I start getting a slide show. ATI Radeon 5750 HD with a gig.
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Re: 2013 Multicore?

Unread postby up_8677 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:38 pm

More likely they optimized their core engine. It runs a lot better for me, too. !!*ok*!!
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Re: 2013 Multicore?

Unread postby miata54 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:00 pm

Be glad your not in my shoes. I just upgraded from an AMD Athlon Dual Core 5600+ 2.8ghz, 4GB RAM, ATI 4670 1GB, XP PRO SP3, to an i7-3820 Quad Core 3.6 ghz, 10GB 1600 DDR3 RAM, ATI 7570 1GB DX11 capable card on WIN7-64. On my old rig, RW2012 ran very smoothly with just a hint of a micro-stutter here and there. On my new rig with either RW2012 or RW2013, I get micro stutters every two seconds or so. It is not worth running. I have installed the 64 bit Core Parking program as mentioned by ArizonaChris. All cores are now active and still the micro stutters exist. So presently, I'm running RW2013 on my old rig and it runs just fine. I'd really like to know what the reason is for the old outperforming the new. Go figure.
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Re: 2013 Multicore?

Unread postby peterhayes » Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:48 pm

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Is this a laptop? If so what may be happening is that somehow the onboard Intel Graphics (4000 I think) are being used rather than your ATI card/ I see in other forums that this can be an issue with some laptops especially on battery power and/or when not using an external monitor. If it is a laptop the maker may be able too tell you how to get the ATI card to work as default?? If this is not a lap top - please ignore. :D

Unfortunately, (my apologies for saying this) the ATI card is not a high-end card and may well be throttling your cpu which is quite powerful and could easily run with a high end ATI (orVidia) card. !*don-know!*

Also you may have "mismatched" RAM if you really have 10GB on board - the i7 3820series is a quad core processor designed to run best on 4, 8 or 16GB matched RAM. Are you sure that's not 10MB of "smart" cache on the cpu? Although you may not see any difference in performance due to the RAM a matched system is always best
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Re: 2013 Multicore?

Unread postby miata54 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:17 pm

Hi PH:

Thanks for your feedback.

First, it is a desktop. An HP customize-able unit. The memory spec was a free ( !*roll-laugh*! ) upgrade from 8 to 10 GB for the unit I was customizing. Not an option not to get it. The PC is an HPE h8-1380t if you want to look at the specs. I completely agree with you that the ATI 7570 is a low end card and have wondered if that is the culprit causing the micro stutters. Finances considered, I having been looking at an nVidia GTX 550ti which I believe is a higher rated card than the 7570.

Strangely enough, I decided on a PC upgrade so I could take better advantage of MS FSX, which I have running quite nicely with some sliders maxed to the right and the rest at 80%. A fair amount of scenery addons as well. A HUGE improvement over my old rig. And this with the 7570. Do you know if TS2012/13 is more demanding than FSX for fluid operation?

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Re: 2013 Multicore?

Unread postby peterhayes » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:16 pm

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FSX is quite demanding and I would have thought that much more so than TS2013. But in FSX you can put the load onto the gpu via nVidia Inspector which you can't do effectively in TS2013. Further your cpu is quite powerful and that should run TS2013 with ease - I have a i7 2600K runnig at 3.4/3.8GHz (GTX670) and that runs TS2013 with ease in any scenery/scenario.. As I say above a balanced system is what is needed and it may be the video card is the 'weak' link. In terms of cards a GTX 570 (if you can get one) or a GTX 660 (or around this spec) would be better although to be fair a GTX 550TI is pretty good for TS2013.

Have a look on the forms for the ATI catalyst settings if they are not quite right they can also cause performance issues, it would seem that Ts2013 is susceptible to these settings more so than FSX.
Look at your RAM if you had 8GB as standard was that in the correct RAM slots? How is the other 2GB of RAM configured - which slots are they in? If the RAM is not matched correctly you could have some problems.

You have a very good system which is being held back by something that is not quite right and unfortunately my suppositions have not given us the answer.
Sorry I couldn't help.
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Re: 2013 Multicore?

Unread postby miata54 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:09 pm

Peter:

Your commentary was helpful in regards for me trying an experiment. With nothing to loose, I decided to swap video cards from my old PC to my new one. The old one has an ATI HD 4670 and surprisingly it is listed with a core clock speed that is 100 mhz faster (750 mhz) than the 7570 (650 mhz)in my new rig. Both cards are 1 GB in memory. After installing the old card in my i7 rig, I downloaded the latest ATI legacy drivers (12.6) and installed them. Fired RW2013 up and sorry to say, no improvement. Micro stutters still existed. Even though a GTX 550ti has a core clock speed of 950 mhz ( a full 300 mhz faster than the 7570) I would hate to spend money on a new card and find it didn't fix the problem.

In XP, I do remember a provision where you could have the OS operate with a previous older Windows OS if you thought a program wasn't compatible with your current OS, but I can't find that option in Win 7. Maybe it is no longer offered. It was just another option I was willing to explore.

Thanks for thoughts.

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Re: 2013 Multicore?

Unread postby peterhayes » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:56 pm

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Hope you get it fixed.
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