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Re: new products

Unread postby NYWhiskey » Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:14 pm

I'm a big fan of cab only driving. You have to admit, sometimes you just have to hop out of the cab to check out the scenery and railfan. Come on admit it. I've tried some routes where you hop out of the cab and you have 300 feet of scenery on each side, looks like a model railroad, I'm not into that.

I helped Bob on the NERW and we agreed to a max number of objects on a tile. We wanted to keep the route playable by as many people as possible. From what I can tell my town is the hardest hitting. When coming into my town from the west, on your left the terrain slopes down with a village in a valley with trees visible on the other side of the valley at least 1\3 of a mile away. To your right you are looking over a couple of yard tracks and sidings, at least a 1\4 mile in cab to the farthest siding. Now picture you are on the farthest siding, you still want to see at least 1\3 of a mile away from there. That basically loaded up that tile with just the cab view and some on the tiles on either side.

Don't really hear people complaining about frame rates. !*YAAA*!
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Re: new products

Unread postby NDORFN » Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:35 pm

NYWhiskey wrote:I'm a big fan of cab only driving. You have to admit, sometimes you just have to hop out of the cab to check out the scenery and railfan. Come on admit it. I've tried some routes where you hop out of the cab and you have 300 feet of scenery on each side, looks like a model railroad, I'm not into that.

I helped Bob on the NERW and we agreed to a max number of objects on a tile. We wanted to keep the route playable by as many people as possible. From what I can tell my town is the hardest hitting. When coming into my town from the west, on your left the terrain slopes down with a village in a valley with trees visible on the other side of the valley at least 1\3 of a mile away. To your right you are looking over a couple of yard tracks and sidings, at least a 1\4 mile in cab to the farthest siding. Now picture you are on the farthest siding, you still want to see at least 1\3 of a mile away from there. That basically loaded up that tile with just the cab view and some on the tiles on either side.

Don't really hear people complaining about frame rates. !*YAAA*!


Computers aren't really that expensive. I'm prepared to say to anyone complaining about FPS... get a better computer. Comparitively speaking, if you weigh up the hours spent playing a route, the enjoyment you get from playing it, the thousands of hours spent creating it (I'm refering to freeware not RSC by the way), and the ongoing costs ie. none, to say your car... well, I don't know how much cars cost in America but I think I can confidently say that no matter where you are in the world, spending some coin on an up-to-date computer is a sound investment all round. Still, I understand some simply can't afford a good system anymore than they can afford a car, which is why I'm releasing two version of my route... a low object yet engaging version, and a super high detail version.
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Re: new products

Unread postby NYWhiskey » Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:59 pm

NDORFN wrote:Computers aren't really that expensive. I'm prepared to say to anyone complaining about FPS... get a better computer.


Absolutely, I went from a Dual Core, Vista 32bit with 4GB of RAM to a Quad Core with Windows 7 64bit with 16GB Ram and run everything I can with RW and never broke 8GB RAM. SBHH are a far thing in the past. *!!wink!!*
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Re: new products

Unread postby NDORFN » Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:08 am

NYWhiskey wrote:
NDORFN wrote:Computers aren't really that expensive. I'm prepared to say to anyone complaining about FPS... get a better computer.


Absolutely, I went from a Dual Core, Vista 32bit with 4GB of RAM to a Quad Core with Windows 7 64bit with 16GB Ram and run everything I can with RW and never broke 8GB RAM. SBHH are a far thing in the past. *!!wink!!*


I've got about 2/3 your specs and get occasional SBHH but they are 100% always due to something I've done that I can pinpoint and undo within minutes. Usually to do with track or road ribbons. So yeah, I think when I put my route out I it's sufficed to say that I've done everything I can to accomodate all end user comp performance.
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Re: new products

Unread postby NYWhiskey » Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:23 am

NDORFNN wrote: So yeah, I think when I put my route out I it's sufficed to say that I've done everything I can to accomodate all end user comp performance.


Can't wait to check it out. :D
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Re: new products

Unread postby TheFlier » Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:09 am

At the end of the day its easier for us users to delete excessive scenery in RE than add it, so we shouldn't really complain. I was just amazed at the zeal to which scenery is packed onto a tile in places.

In theory we should be able to use the scenery-detail slider in the game options, but in practice that slider removes useful things like bridges and stations before it removes the superfluous stuff like blind-spotted scenery or thins-out the over-intensive areas, which is a great shame.

Upgrading our PC specs is always an option, but it's like road upgrading - the more you upgrade to increase the throughput, the higher the demand gets to soak up the slack.

As route designers you can design it however you want, I just wish you'd warn us how processor intensive you've made it before we buy. At the moment all we get is absurdly low system-spec outline that would hardly even boot up windows in the real-world. And you wonder why people get upset when they feel they've been hoodwinked into buying a route they just cant play in a reasonable fashion.

If you design routes for tomorrow's PC specs, at least allow us to wait until tomorrow before buying it.
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