Railworks 3 Technical Video in 15 minutes

[BNSF650]

lol yea but i couldnt find a good one with BNSF

[arizonachris]

I thought the cab sway was fine.

I love all the haters that posted anti RW comments. MSTS hold outs?

[imnew]

Cab sway will be tweaked before release, the video shows it is now implementet, and as Derek said, cab sway values will be fine tuned. Oh, and there is only ONE SIM out there, its Railworks

[Shortliner]

I thought the cab sway was fine.

I love all the haters that posted anti RW comments. MSTS hold outs?

Either that or Trainz fanboys.

[arizonachris]

Oh, and there is only ONE SIM out there, its Railworks

Well, I suppose they could be from "that other website" that we all know and ................. love?

[thecanadianrail]

anybody else notice that it is only 1 guy saying all of that stuff! (just spamming the pages)

[Hawk]

Let's be careful about any negativity towards others, even if they're not members here.

[mapitts]

Just an observation from my thoughts on the cab sway. I looked at the video over a few times ( giggling the whole time because it is coming ) and something struck me as VERY odd. The engineer's view is hanging in mid air. If you look the terrain, engineer's view, and track are all smooth. The locomotive is swaying under you. The correct view would be for the terrain swaying and the locomotive and engineer's view to be what is swaying. Am I the only one who is seeing that?

[hughes407]

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on what sways. The terrain is stable and objects inside, but not attached to, the rigid locomotive tend to be stable (the old inertia thing). So the locomotive will tend to move under and around the object (engineer) and the terrain outside will not seem to move. Obviously, this represents perfect world and in reality, the engineer will sway inside the locomotive but will be time-phased slightly behind the locomotive which makes it all the more complicated. Bottom line, the engineer will sense the locomotive moving around him.

Don

[Machinist]

About the two previous posts, what I noticed, regarding to the movie, is that the rails are not always smooth, the smoothness is varying (I dont' know how to say that in english). Just look only to the rails (in external view) and see how they are layed down. I also noticed that cab is swaying less in external view then in cab view but, according to hughes407, engineer feels the swaying more than the heavy loco. In real life that's true.

[mapitts]

I can't argue with physics.

[Kali]

From a force analysis point of view, the engineer's quite heavy eyes are attached to the seat by a reasonably bendy stick. It's a nice thing to visualise :)

[Dan]

Cab sway/movement depends on a lot of things.

Different locos/rolling stock can ride the same piece of track very differently. Likewise, track can make something that rides smoothly normally ride very roughly.

Loco weight and distribution also matter. Some designs of loco have very bad riding because of poor weight distribution, some are poor riding because of poor bogie design. So for example with a steam engine (especially a tank engine) how full is the bunker? How full are the water tanks? These all impact on ride.

Didn't the SP40F's have a very bad reputation for riding and wasn't that due to the tanks for the steam heat?

For example I used to travel on the Portsmouth line and we had 3 types of EMU. One type was known to be very rough riding (CEP) because of its design of bogie. While the others were much better. Travelling over the motor bogie gives you a much rougher ride as well. So when commuting you avoided certain units and certain places on the train if you wanted a decent ride.

Steam locos travelling tender first tend to ride more roughly.

Also, ride quality is the first thing that goes with age and maintenance.

Some units are good, some are bad.

Something that maybe of interest to people is the report into the 1927 Sevenoaks crash. To cut a long story short the loco rolled and derailed. There were a lot of questions about why it rolled - ie loco design vs track. As part of the investigation they did a lot of tests looking at ride, types of roll etc on different track and with different locos, with different settings - ie tender first, chimney first, bunker first, chimney first, high speed, low speed, full/empty/half-full bunkers, tanks. It's IMO very interesting because it gives some kind of attempt to study ride quality.

http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/documents/MoT_Sevenoaks1927.pdf

[pschlik]

It would be epic if you guys use real es44ac sounds, like engine sounds, not the horn but the engine sounds. Yeah, the cab veiw does need to be fixed, looks smoother on the outside than on the inside

[emdsd90mac]

I am truly glad to see the banks in the curves.