RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

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Re: RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

Unread postby OldProf » Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:33 am

Ah, Saginaw! Brings up memories of Theodore Roethke:
In Saginaw, in Saginaw,
The wind blows up your feet,
When the ladies’ guild puts on a feed,
There’s beans on every plate,
And if you eat more than you should,
Destruction is complete.
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Re: RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

Unread postby Coaltrain1 » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:29 am

Pretty Cool, must be some good beans..
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Re: RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

Unread postby emdsd90mac » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:58 am

Wow! What a great idea and it's looking really nice too. Looking forward to running this once available. !*salute*!
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Re: RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

Unread postby Coaltrain1 » Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:23 am

Thank You My friend.. Here's a few pics of the RW&A LS&W interchange

RW&A LS&W interchange.jpg


RW&A LS&W 2.jpg


RW&A LS&W 3.jpg
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Re: RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

Unread postby OldProf » Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:30 am

I see shunting in our future!
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Re: RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

Unread postby Chacal » Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:33 pm

This is looking great, Coaltrain1.

The only problem I see is this: according to the map in your first post, your new line does not connect with the RW&A.
If I undesrtand correctly, according to the RW&A manual the double main line going around the RW&A represents two unknown major railroads. So your interchange at the SW corner is with one of those railroads, not with the RW&A.

I presume interacting with the RW&A is essential, otherwise you wouldn't have built this route as an extension of it.
But the current layout makes this difficult. A scenario involving both LS&W and RW&A would be awkward, as it would require running on the unknown mainline between the two short lines, which requires a story about trackage rights. For the player, it means running on a boring main line in flat and empty country, since this track was never intended to be seen by players.

It seems to me you should build your interchange either connected directly to RW&A, or closer to it. The existing interchange area at Riverside would be ideal for this.
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Re: RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

Unread postby Coaltrain1 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:31 pm

Very Good point, But I am to far along to change this now. I'll have to dig into the history books and find a way for the RW&A & The LS&W to assume control of the trackage. Most likely the Interstate commerce Act of 1887, with provisions also included in the Hepburn Act. Whereas the Attorney general for the State of not named here for privacy concerns filed suit against the two major Class 1 railroads not named for privacy concerns for Price fixing on freight, and Per diem charges, to whereas making it impossible for interstate commerce to be conducted fairly and in a timely Manner..

Although the Interstate Commerce Commission was largely ineffectual prior to 1900, the onset of the Progressive Movement revived the issue of regulation. Most Americans were of the opinion that more stringent controls were needed to prevent abuses such as those perceived within the financial markets -- and which on occasion had led to great collapses of railroad systems, as well as the resultant loss of investor fortunes. It was obvious that something needed to be done to restore the public's confidence.
In this light, President Theodore Roosevelt in 1901 directed his attorney general to file suit -- under the provisions of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act -- against Northern Securities, a giant holding company formed by railroad consolidationists Edward H. Harriman and James J. Hill. The company was outlawed in 1904, and later that year Roosevelt was reelected to a second term. Before the year was out, Roosevelt asked Congress to increase the powers of the I.C.C. This was done overwhelmingly with passage of the Hepburn Act, which empowered the commission to establish "just and reasonable" maximum rates

On May 3rd 1905 The RW&A & LS&W were Granted track age rights as well as control of movement on said track age from both Class 1 Rail Roads not named here for Privacy concerns therefor eliminating undue freight charges and allowing total access to all industrial and commercial trackage within the said Municipalities not named here for privacy concerns.
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Re: RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

Unread postby buzz456 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:08 pm

"it means running on a boring main line in flat and empty country". It's not that far and if we run out of scenery I volunteer to slap down a bunch of trees and a few buildings to keep you from getting bored. *!greengrin!*
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Re: RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

Unread postby Coaltrain1 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:42 pm

Thanks Buzz that was my next suggestion maybe the community here would like to populate the areas to avoid a boring ride from the interchange to either direction.
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Re: RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

Unread postby buzz456 » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:59 am

By the way, the long boring run to the interchange takes six minutes. It now has trees. *!greengrin!*
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Re: RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

Unread postby jamesphh » Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:55 pm

Any asset that you can not include please give info on where to find it. I probably have most of what you have used but am not aware of the Springfield Line.
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Re: RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

Unread postby buzz456 » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:12 pm

jamesphh wrote:Any asset that you can not include please give info on where to find it. I probably have most of what you have used but am not aware of the Springfield Line.


http://vnhrr.golden-age-rails.com/details.html

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Re: RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

Unread postby Coaltrain1 » Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:51 pm

Thanks Buzz the trees look great good selection
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Re: RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

Unread postby ozinoz » Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:57 pm

buzz456 wrote:By the way, the long boring run to the interchange takes six minutes. It now has trees. *!greengrin!*


In which direction? For some reason I have started to imagine the extension and RWA trackage as something of a loop. Loaded coal drags effectively "turn right" and head to the interchange yard and docks at Waterton and then the empties from the docks then have a straight run up the RWA to Riverside before joining "the loop track" and heading back to Green Mountain. No idea why !*don-know!*

Looking forward to seeing how this is progressing...

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Re: RWA Lakeside LS&W Expansion ( Cloned Route)

Unread postby Coaltrain1 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:06 am

Again Thank you for the Kind Words, I had planned at least at first for all traffic coming off of the LS&W to go into the RW&A Interchange. There RW&A Crews would then pick up the train and distribute the freight according to there schedule. At this point I had not planned on any freight coming around the loop from the east side. Will have to look at how well the route is liked and if there are enough scenario's for the expansion to warrant populating the area. Not sure at this point. I do want to post a couple Screens first is Hop Town just above the LS&W wye this is for you Ozinoz I hope you like it. The shot of the bridge is crossing the Little Beaver River between Saginaw City and the Tri State Coal Mine. BTW Green Mountain went away and became Tri State Coal Co.

Hop Town.jpg


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Little beaver river Bridge.jpg
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