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Western Pacific F7

Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:11 am
by OpenRailer90
Announced on train-simulator.com. No word on WIP pictures of the California Zephyr trainset though.

http://train-simulator.com/covered-wago ... he-canyon/

Re: Western Pacific F7

Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:13 am
by jwtheiv
Figures since I just finally got around to buying the GN F7, they'd add another. ;)

Re: Western Pacific F7

Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:27 am
by _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha
Given the many pictures with the F7 in that article we can presume it is the finished model.
It probably means no F3 or FP7 from DTG, unless they come with the Zephyr?

What else in DTG's roundhouse is suitable? A GP9, a GP20?
It the timeframe of the route is fixed in the 60's/70's, these will have to do.

The many GP35 and GP40 units WP acquired later will have to come from elsewhere.

Re: Western Pacific F7

Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:30 am
by Alpenfreight
I think the passenger version will come out with the Zephyr, this one is for freight!

Take my money!!

Re: Western Pacific F7

Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:43 am
by OpenRailer90
_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha wrote:Given the many pictures with the F7 in that article we can presume it is the finished model.
It probably means no F3 or FP7 from DTG, unless they come with the Zephyr?

What else in DTG's roundhouse is suitable? A GP9, a GP20?
It the timeframe of the route is fixed in the 60's/70's, these will have to do.

The many GP35 and GP40 units WP acquired later will have to come from elsewhere.

DTM is producing a GP35 to be with the DD35 pack, and a WP GP40 would be an excellent VRC GP40 repaint. And yes, there is a WP GP9 in the GP9 DLC.

Alpenfreight wrote:I think the passenger version will come out with the Zephyr, this one is for freight!

Take my money!!

Honestly, I would've rather prefered to see the freight version included with the route, just like how Marc did it with the 3DTrains version. The passenger version will make good separate DLC. Makes me question why the Marketplace F7s require the older Great Northern Empire Builder pack.

Re: Western Pacific F7

Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:28 pm
by buzz456
The way I read the article it is going to be included with the route.
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Re: Western Pacific F7

Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:01 pm
by BoostedFridge
The wording in the article definitely states this F7 is included with the route. I think they have done a great job with the weathering on it!

Re: Western Pacific F7

Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:35 pm
by imnew
Sweet! Love the weathering.

Re: Western Pacific F7

Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:47 pm
by OpenRailer90
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I have to admit, the weathering is one of DTG's best. Did WP F7s have an M5 mounted with a standard A200?

Re: Western Pacific F7

Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:34 pm
by TheTeenageFoamer
I guess I never realized the the WP F7s only had the one headlight.

Re: Western Pacific F7

Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:42 pm
by OpenRailer90
Berkshirefan765 wrote:I guess I never realized the the WP F7s only had the one headlight.

The headlight on the B-unit really got me; were these units in semi-permanently coupled A-B sets?

Re: Western Pacific F7

Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:52 pm
by tbundy1982
After a quick Google image search, it looks like the steam generator equipped units had a 5-chime Leslie (S5T?) horn on the forward side. All the freight units I saw had two A-200's.

Does anyone remember some years ago seeing WIP images from Reppo of a WP GP20?

ADDITION: I can't say for sure about semi-permanent coupling, but I can venture to guess than by 1950 most roads were straying away from that if possible due to maintenance costs. Failure of one-half of a semi-coupled pair would sideline both units, whereas standard coupled units could be separated in that scenario. I can't remember when the fireman's job requirements were altered to suit diesel locomotives; the original rules required a fireman to be on every unit, which made sense with steam engines. Semi-coupling was found as a loophole in that rule until the rules were changed to suit the needs of a diesel locomotive. I should note that the original FT locomotives didn't have many "automatic" features and could really keep a fireman busy at times. Subsequent F2-F9 units pretty much tended to themselves.

I don't know the history of the B-unit headlight but I suspect that they are later additions by WP's shop forces. Straight off a steam engine !!jabber!!

A photo here may confirm my suspicion: http://www.wplives.com/archives/diesel/ ... s/924.html

A closer look at the photo might also confirm that 924 is a semi-coupled A-B set. It was 924A, B, C, and D, but the numberboard in the photo doesn't show a letter designation. F7A numberboards from later photos and DTG screenshots show a letter A or D following the number. They dropped the letter later but by that time there were only a few units left.


Tyler

Re: Western Pacific F7

Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:53 pm
by BNSFdude
Passenger units had an M5, while freight units had A-200s.

Re: Western Pacific F7

Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:36 pm
by buzz456
Berkshirefan765 wrote:I guess I never realized the the WP F7s only had the one headlight.


Lots of the freight units only had one headlight on some roads.

Re: Western Pacific F7

Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:47 pm
by ZekTheKid
Where these the only kind with one headlight?