Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby ChrisOnline » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:28 am

ElphabaWS wrote:
ex-railwayman wrote:... bugger extending the passenger line down to Gilroy. Another missed opportunity for DTG, they just aren't creative enough.

Cheerz. Steve.

So let me understand what you are saying? To be "creative," this route should have excluded the natural extension of Caltrain commuter service to Gilroy; the addition of the Port of Redwood City, the Hollister branch, and modern components of the South San Francisco Pier District were somehow inadequate; but modeling a contemporary/modern route with features that only existed in the past would have been a better idea?


Just what I was thinking!

Maybe a good project (but beyond my abilities) would be to clone the route, chop off the unwanted stuff, and backdate the rest to include an expanded dock area including the Ferry Building, the Ferry Arch, and so on (I recently discovered the wonderful Ferry Arch and its history on a Thanksgiving visit to San Francisco)

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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby buzz456 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:59 am

ElphabaWS wrote:
ex-railwayman wrote:... bugger extending the passenger line down to Gilroy. Another missed opportunity for DTG, they just aren't creative enough.

Cheerz. Steve.

So let me understand what you are saying? To be "creative," this route should have excluded the natural extension of Caltrain commuter service to Gilroy; the addition of the Port of Redwood City, the Hollister branch, and modern components of the South San Francisco Pier District were somehow inadequate; but modeling a contemporary/modern route with features that only existed in the past would have been a better idea?


Makes route builders wonder if they should ever attempt anything. *!sad!*
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby ex-railwayman » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:22 am

ElphabaWS wrote:
ex-railwayman wrote:... bugger extending the passenger line down to Gilroy. Another missed opportunity for DTG, they just aren't creative enough.
Cheerz. Steve.

So let me understand what you are saying? To be "creative," this route should have excluded the natural extension of Caltrain commuter service to Gilroy; the addition of the Port of Redwood City, the Hollister branch, and modern components of the South San Francisco Pier District were somehow inadequate; but modeling a contemporary/modern route with features that only existed in the past would have been a better idea?

I am a veteran customer, I'm also a Cancer Patient, I don't like being bullied, and I am certianly not here to be grilled by DTG staff.

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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby ElphabaWS » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:42 am

ex-railwayman wrote:I don't like being bullied.

If you felt offended, my sincere apologies. I was asking for a clarification of why you felt the route lacked creativity and was a missed opportunity. I am not a member of DTG staff.
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby Brickrail782 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:44 pm

BNSFdude wrote:The route overall is very nice with plenty of new opportunities for operations. The Nippon Sharyo stock looks great, and sounds pretty good, but the brake schedule issues make running them a little disappointing. The F40 on the other hand is missing an entire back wall of detail, and there's so many bugs with it that make it undriveable. Not to mention a huge FPS issue with the F40 and N-S stock when sitting as static consists by defaulting the damned cab lights to on when not player controlled. Of course the lights are all shadow casting so having more than one static consist in a scene will tank FPS. I'm running an i7 7700k, and a 1070, so the performance hit is absolutely unacceptable.

Don't get me started on this.
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Lens flare when the headlights are off?
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby buzz456 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:59 pm

Please report these to DTG if they are serious enough to complain about them. It does no good to complain here.
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby Kevin » Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:10 pm

That's where Flying Scotsman arrived in San Francisco
00:41 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzN72RNuP6c

ChrisOnline wrote:Maybe a good project (but beyond my abilities) would be to clone the route, chop off the unwanted stuff, and backdate the rest to include an expanded dock area including the Ferry Building, the Ferry Arch, and so on (I recently discovered the wonderful Ferry Arch and its history on a Thanksgiving visit to San Francisco)
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby ElphabaWS » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:09 pm

Kevin wrote:That's where Flying Scotsman arrived in San Francisco
00:41 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzN72RNuP6c

ChrisOnline wrote:Maybe a good project (but beyond my abilities) would be to clone the route, chop off the unwanted stuff, and backdate the rest to include an expanded dock area including the Ferry Building, the Ferry Arch, and so on (I recently discovered the wonderful Ferry Arch and its history on a Thanksgiving visit to San Francisco)

No doubt about it that a vintage edition of this route will be grand. Have you started on the Southern Pacific Fairbanks-Morse Train Masters yet, Kevin? *!!wink!!*
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby BNSFdude » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:33 pm

ElphabaWS wrote:
Kevin wrote:That's where Flying Scotsman arrived in San Francisco
00:41 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzN72RNuP6c

ChrisOnline wrote:Maybe a good project (but beyond my abilities) would be to clone the route, chop off the unwanted stuff, and backdate the rest to include an expanded dock area including the Ferry Building, the Ferry Arch, and so on (I recently discovered the wonderful Ferry Arch and its history on a Thanksgiving visit to San Francisco)

No doubt about it that a vintage edition of this route will be grand. Have you started on the Southern Pacific Fairbanks-Morse Train Masters yet, Kevin? *!!wink!!*

No point in making something no one can make audio for. No running examples of any Trainmasters available, and the stationary power generation units sound totally different.
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby buzz456 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:52 pm

Surely if they can make a Star Wars movie we can somehow figure out how to make a credible sound set for this magnificent beast.
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby Kevin » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:09 pm

ElphabaWS wrote:No doubt about it that a vintage edition of this route will be grand.

Though a better starting point would be the Sacramento Northern route, which is set in a period when the State Belt RR was at its peak

ElphabaWS wrote:Have you started on the Southern Pacific Fairbanks-Morse Train Masters yet, Kevin? *!!wink!!*

I'm embarrassed to admit I had no idea what one of those is and had to Google it. They don't sound much like any other loco I can think of.
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby ChrisOnline » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:18 pm

ChrisOnline wrote:Maybe a good project (but beyond my abilities) would be to clone the route, chop off the unwanted stuff, and backdate the rest to include an expanded dock area including the Ferry Building, the Ferry Arch, and so on (I recently discovered the wonderful Ferry Arch and its history on a Thanksgiving visit to San Francisco)


Kevin wrote:That's where Flying Scotsman arrived in San Francisco
00:41 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzN72RNuP6c


It's also the departure point for convicts being taken to Alcatraz (which can be seen in the background behind the lamp post in the top photos). Passenger traffic!!
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby buzz456 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:27 pm

Let's try to get the thread back on track folks.
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby JohnS » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:38 am

ok So if I've read these comments correctly the brakes in the NS cabcar should be like the 26E-1 brake valve. (Release, E-Hold, Lap, Apply, Suppression, Handle-off, Emergency) and the F40 should be the same way?
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby BNSFdude » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:01 pm

JohnS wrote:ok So if I've read these comments correctly the brakes in the NS cabcar should be like the 26E-1 brake valve. (Release, E-Hold, Lap, Apply, Suppression, Handle-off, Emergency) and the F40 should be the same way?

Yes.

And the MP36 and the BBD Cab Car should have a 30CDW and whatever the cab car has.
Release, Minimum, Service Portion, FullService, Suppression, Handle Off/Continuous Service, Emerg.
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