UP SD60M

[Antwerp]

Just remember people, anybody can put anything out there in the marketplace. Activity then determines value. As I have said repeatedly on this forum, no one forces anyone to buy stuff for RW. Each decision is made by each person.

I couldn't agree more, but somethings should really be free out of generosity.

This item would fix a problem that shouldn't truly exist. (This time I'm looking at RSC)

(Though RSC does get a point for giving the people who owned a DLC a free upgrade when it's re-released)

[buzz456]

Well said Mike.

[BNSFdude]

If were going to get on the topic of if somethings worth the money we should really consider that its up to the artist. If they felt that the work they put in to it is worthy of a price tag then they can put a price tag on it where at the same time if you don't think its worth it then you don't have to buy it. Granted we may have better or worse sounds for freeware (I don't know I have yet to buy the pack) but if you want the pack then you pay the artist and thank him for releasing it. If you don't think its worth it you can always try to make a better one on your own or deal with the defaults and freebies we have floating around. But getting involved with sounds is a pain and its a hassle to record your own sounds IF you can even find someone who will let you. Anthony just happens to have a good source close by and brings us some great sounds because of it. I think if he wants to he can put a price on his sounds, specially if it covers several locomotives. This is a pack I will be buying myself, matter of fact while its fresh in my mind I'll go get them now

Anyway...just my back on topic now

[luifeldur]

Very well said

[Ericmopar]

Hmmmmm... Well....
Just one problem with some of those videos.
1. Engines sound different when under load than when stopped and in neutral. When a loco is in run 8 under load, like climbing a pass, there is lots of current being drawn from the alternator/generator assembly, which results in the assembly being much harder to turn at the specified RPM, per notch setting.
The engine gets more fuel delivered by whatever governor assembly and gets throatier. As the load on the engine increases, the exhaust gets hotter and the turbo spools up accordingly as well.

I've never really thought about it before, but I wonder if that's why some of the sounds are off. Because the recordings weren't done under load. It would explain why the GE engines sound kinda right, but no bark in the exhaust note.
It would be like trying to get a recording for a sim of NASCAR, with the car in neutral.

[trkspd]

If one does not have anything good to say, one must not say anything at all.

I really want to give my thoughts on this release......

[awaken1977]

here is SD60 running on neitral (not under load)
it seems have lower idle RPMs? but on notch 8, there is very subtle difference (if any)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cecpil0MpXw

SD70

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhxX8hnoS-o

also, under load you hear traction motors whining and gear howl

[awaken1977]

I've never really thought about it before, but I wonder if that's why some of the sounds are off. Because the recordings weren't done under load.

It is possible to make sound records under load on a still loco, using load test mode. These tests usually performed after repair.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ayGtsQpSQ0

[BNSFdude]

I've never really thought about it before, but I wonder if that's why some of the sounds are off. Because the recordings weren't done under load.

It is possible to make sound records under load on still loco, using load test mode.
for those who work in the locomotive depot, it shouldnt be a big problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ayGtsQpSQ0

Actually, it is a big problem, and part of why the SD60M didn't come with quality sounds to begin with. BNSF doesn't allow non-shop personnel near locomotives when under load testing.

[luifeldur]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5EFQo2Lkn0
Video in the real cab ride SD60M Triclops on the real life

[BigBoyMoon]

Anyone know if it's possible to alias the sounds to Ian's SD60?

[awaken1977]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5EFQo2Lkn0
Video in the real cab ride SD60M Triclops on the real life

Nice route, and FPS is decent! Is it in Oregon?

[awaken1977]

Do SD60M and SD70M/MAC have the same height of engine hood?

I compared new UP SD60M with UP SD70M from Sherman hill, and they have notable difference in height.
The same about green BN SD40-2 and BN/BNSF GP38-2 from StP. Difference in hood height is obvious, if they are coupled back to back.

[mrennie]

If were going to get on the topic of if somethings worth the money we should really consider that its up to the artist. If they felt that the work they put in to it is worthy of a price tag then they can put a price tag on it where at the same time if you don't think its worth it then you don't have to buy it. Granted we may have better or worse sounds for freeware (I don't know I have yet to buy the pack) but if you want the pack then you pay the artist and thank him for releasing it. If you don't think its worth it you can always try to make a better one on your own or deal with the defaults and freebies we have floating around. But getting involved with sounds is a pain and its a hassle to record your own sounds IF you can even find someone who will let you. Anthony just happens to have a good source close by and brings us some great sounds because of it. I think if he wants to he can put a price on his sounds, specially if it covers several locomotives. This is a pack I will be buying myself, matter of fact while its fresh in my mind I'll go get them now

Anyway...just my back on topic now

[thecanadianrail]

Do SD60M and SD70M/MAC have the same height of engine hood?

I compared new UP SD60M with UP SD70M from Sherman hill, and they have notable difference in height.
The same about green BN SD40-2 and BN/BNSF GP38-2 from StP. Difference in hood height is obvious, if they are coupled back to back.

no they do not have the same heights of engine hood, you will also notice that on some locomotives the walkway's will be at different height which is prototypical. hook up a GP9 to a Gevo and see the size and height difference lol!