RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby mrennie » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:21 am

Casey Rhodes wrote:I always operate as a tourist operation in the 21st century when I play, so it would fit in. Maybe not for everyone else, but it was just a suggestion.


That's what I'd understood too. I see that you're involved in such an operation in real life, which is also why I appreciate your advice on the technical matter of operating a steam locomotive.
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby mrennie » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:23 am

Casey Rhodes wrote:You are correct sir! You are certainly going the extra 1000 miles for detail. Its very impressive. The only other thing I would suggest is: if it's not too much trouble, try to work out something to make the whistle playable, as was discussed earlier in the forum.


I'm glad I got that right!

Yes, "quilling" the chimes is something I'm going to work on this weekend, as that's almost the last of the cab controls left to do. I've been listening to lots of videos to get the sounds in my head. I also found a website that explained all the different codes (and there was me thinking they were just random toots ... not at all!).
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby jpetersjr » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:53 am

Of course, when this locomotive was first built the radio for a locomotive had not yet been invented, so I don't believe it would fit in. Most steam locomotives of this era, if not all of them did not have a radio.
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby CaseyRhodes » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:07 pm

jpetersjr wrote:Of course, when this locomotive was first built the radio for a locomotive had not yet been invented, so I don't believe it would fit in. Most steam locomotives of this era, if not all of them did not have a radio.


Right right, i don't think that kind of technology was perfected or usable at that time, however, once again, just a suggestion for users that don't play as if they were operating at the turn of the century.
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby mrennie » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:57 am

Casey Rhodes wrote:Right right, i don't think that kind of technology was perfected or usable at that time, however, once again, just a suggestion for users that don't play as if they were operating at the turn of the century.


The one I'm modelling was built between 1920 and 1921, so not quite turn of the century. As far as I know, there were only five built, all for the AT&N, and they lasted into the 1940s. For the package, I'll be doing some "what' if?" scenarios on the PRR, set in the 1950s, but I could also do a modern day scenario with the loco operating a special.
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby mrennie » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:27 pm

b737lvr wrote:Can you make sure that the description on steam says the PRR skins and scenarios are fictional?


Certainly! In fact, it was already brought up by Matt. RSC also thought that it would be better to make the default livery authentic (AT&N). I'll have to see if we'll release a fictional PRR livery or not. The scenarios will definitely be described as fictional.
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby UP3985 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:33 pm

Something like...

The Railroad has just purchased a new type of yard engine and it has been called out on the road to take a string of flat cars to Galitzin...

Something like that maybe? *!!wink!!* *!!wink!!*
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby mrennie » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:39 pm

UP3985 wrote:Something like...

The Railroad has just purchased a new type of yard engine and it has been called out on the road to take a string of flat cars to Galitzin...

Something like that maybe? *!!wink!!* *!!wink!!*


Yep, something like that :D

I'm hoping that people will be sufficiently impressed with the model to not care too much about the plausability of the story behind the scenarios, happy enough to be able to run the loco *!lol!*

This Consolidation looks a lot like many others, of different classes, that I've seen, so I'm hoping there'll be plenty of scope for reskins anyway.
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby UP3985 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:48 pm

About the radio, I rode in cab of UP 844 on September 17, and it was amazing!

The radio wasn't all that chattery, pretty silent really. Th only thing that made noise somewhat consistently was the beeping of the in cab signals whenever we passed a signal. We went through some MOW and used the whistle to signal to the workers that we were coming through. The radios were mainly used only when starting, contacting dispatch, and when stopping again.

I have a video of it on my youtube channel
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby CaseyRhodes » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:05 pm

UP3985 wrote:About the radio, I rode in cab of UP 844 on September 17, and it was amazing!

The radio wasn't all that chattery, pretty silent really. Th only thing that made noise somewhat consistently was the beeping of the in cab signals whenever we passed a signal. We went through some MOW and used the whistle to signal to the workers that we were coming through. The radios were mainly used only when starting, contacting dispatch, and when stopping again.

I have a video of it on my youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7A94WMbKLo

(sorry, my camcorder took a crap on me and I had to use my digital)


I understand that every operation is different, however, on the short-line railroad which I have worked on for the past several years we don't do any high speed mainline running over longs distances. Our railroad is only 20 miles long, our speed limit is 10 mph for freight and 15 mph for passenger, and the section that the steam locomotive pulls excursions over is about 6-7 miles. In a day of operation we have a fair amount of switching, therefore there is a lot of radio communication. I am speaking purely from my personal experiences on the railroad. I'll say as i have said before, it would sort of simulate the operation I have come accustomed to. I am aware that it is not the same as all others, all operations are different. It was merely a suggestion, and I wasn't fishing for anybody's correction or criticism, the post was merely an idea to the developer of the locomotive, "mrennie." Nothing more. :D :D
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby mrennie » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:14 pm

I've got another question about the headlight selector. I found a really good close-up photo of the headlight 3-position (Bright - Off - Dim) selector switch, and I've used it to make a really realistic (photo-realistic!) selector that I placed in the cab, in the roof, just above the engineer's window. However, my question is about the tender headlight. Is there another selector, the same as the one for the forward headlight, for the tender headlight, or is the switch somewhere in the tender?
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby UP3985 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:21 pm

Casey Rhodes wrote:
UP3985 wrote:About the radio, I rode in cab of UP 844 on September 17, and it was amazing!

The radio wasn't all that chattery, pretty silent really. Th only thing that made noise somewhat consistently was the beeping of the in cab signals whenever we passed a signal. We went through some MOW and used the whistle to signal to the workers that we were coming through. The radios were mainly used only when starting, contacting dispatch, and when stopping again.

I have a video of it on my youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7A94WMbKLo

(sorry, my camcorder took a crap on me and I had to use my digital)


I understand that every operation is different, however, on the short-line railroad which I have worked on for the past several years we don't do any high speed mainline running over longs distances. Our railroad is only 20 miles long, our speed limit is 10 mph for freight and 15 mph for passenger, and the section that the steam locomotive pulls excursions over is about 6-7 miles. In a day of operation we have a fair amount of switching, therefore there is a lot of radio communication. I am speaking purely from my personal experiences on the railroad. I'll say as i have said before, it would sort of simulate the operation I have come accustomed to. I am aware that it is not the same as all others, all operations are different. It was merely a suggestion, and I wasn't fishing for anybody's correction or criticism, the post was merely an idea to the developer of the locomotive, "mrennie." Nothing more. :D :D



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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby BNSFdude » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:49 pm

The noobs at the MTM tend to use radio for movements when switching. I go there and use hand signals like a man. *!lol!*
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby mrennie » Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:46 pm

Now there's an idea too ... an animated engineer with controllable hand signals. Might be a bit complicated. Perhaps for next time :D
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby CaseyRhodes » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:45 pm

mrennie wrote:I've got another question about the headlight selector. I found a really good close-up photo of the headlight 3-position (Bright - Off - Dim) selector switch, and I've used it to make a really realistic (photo-realistic!) selector that I placed in the cab, in the roof, just above the engineer's window. However, my question is about the tender headlight. Is there another selector, the same as the one for the forward headlight, for the tender headlight, or is the switch somewhere in the tender?


On both the locomotives I work on there is a switch that controls both the locomotive and tender lights. It has 5 positions(front-bright, front-dim, center position-off, tender-dim, tender-bright.
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