Clear Creek Narrow Gauge route

[TheEmmaSweeny1]

Does anybody know if there will be one of the colorado and southern"s famous 2-6-0s?

[OldProf]

I'm not an high paid corporate lawyer so you'll have to pardon my ignorance. I can go into any hobby shop here in Australia, or anywhere else in the world outside the USA, and purchase model locomotives and rollingstock in the full colour schemes of BNSF or any of its predecessor roads (some of the paint schemes varying widely in accuracy or even on locos never owned by those railroads) so why not models in a computer simulation? I can't afford a lawyer to ask BNSF's of DTG's lawyers so I guess I'll never know.

I'm not a high-paid anything, which has yet to keep me from expressing an opinion. Memories from the earlier parts of the 8000+ hours I've spent with TS tell me that at one time there was a much anxiety from real RRs' lawyers (who else would spend so much time nuking gnats?) about possible screen images of crashes (such proclamations keeping them from worrying about real crashes, which should, logically, be fair game for simulation). DTG is itself, of course, a corporation, so its lawyers listen to and heed the anxious warnings of other corporations' lawyers and trademarks -- not only those of railroads -- disappear from the sim. The only surprise in all this is that BNSF's law staff has not gone after the makers of modifications that restore those trademarks.

(Who's shadow is that creeping over my shoulder? Is it -- -- Admin-Man? Better change my tune!)

Trademarks or not, it's the trains themselves that make this sim worth while, and this up-coming narrow gauge route strikes me as a winner.

[OldProf]

One more quick note: a question, really. Not knowing a lot about narrow gauge railroading, I'm wondering whether the third rail I see in these screenshots means that standard gauge equipment will also run on this route.

[ssbobz]

One more quick note: a question, really. Not knowing a lot about narrow gauge railroading, I'm wondering whether the third rail I see in these screenshots means that standard gauge equipment will also run on this route.

I think one of the shots shows standard equipment on the rail too but I noticed some of the frogs are not rendering properly.

[buzz456]

One more quick note: a question, really. Not knowing a lot about narrow gauge railroading, I'm wondering whether the third rail I see in these screenshots means that standard gauge equipment will also run on this route.

I think one of the shots shows standard equipment on the rail too but I noticed some of the frogs are not rendering properly.

Let me remind you that this is a WIP.

[ssbobz]

Not complaining at all, just observing. I know sometimes the frogs just don't work out on some angles and lengths. If it's a temporary issue or something that can't be sorted out I'll be impressed with working dual gauge; even if it ends up being cosmetic only I'll still be content.

[TheEmmaSweeny1]

Anybody in favor of them making RGS #20 for this route?
in case you havent reailzed yet, i kind of have an addiction to this loco

[ozinoz]

Ahhh

Doubt it. One is C&S the other RGS, although Dick from Britkits might. He has just rolled out DRG K28's, so you never know.

(asnd roll on release )

[ES44AH]

This route looks epic! Wonder how it will run frame rates wise? I may actually buy this one I like it so much! (sorry for all my emojis!)

[westfalen]

I'm not an high paid corporate lawyer so you'll have to pardon my ignorance. I can go into any hobby shop here in Australia, or anywhere else in the world outside the USA, and purchase model locomotives and rollingstock in the full colour schemes of BNSF or any of its predecessor roads (some of the paint schemes varying widely in accuracy or even on locos never owned by those railroads) so why not models in a computer simulation? I can't afford a lawyer to ask BNSF's of DTG's lawyers so I guess I'll never know.

I'm not a high-paid anything, which has yet to keep me from expressing an opinion. Memories from the earlier parts of the 8000+ hours I've spent with TS tell me that at one time there was a much anxiety from real RRs' lawyers (who else would spend so much time nuking gnats?) about possible screen images of crashes (such proclamations keeping them from worrying about real crashes, which should, logically, be fair game for simulation). DTG is itself, of course, a corporation, so its lawyers listen to and heed the anxious warnings of other corporations' lawyers and trademarks -- not only those of railroads -- disappear from the sim. The only surprise in all this is that BNSF's law staff has not gone after the makers of modifications that restore those trademarks.

(Who's shadow is that creeping over my shoulder? Is it -- -- Admin-Man? Better change my tune!)

Trademarks or not, it's the trains themselves that make this sim worth while, and this up-coming narrow gauge route strikes me as a winner.

So it's ok for U.S. citizens to stage wrecks with BNSF equipment but they don't want any of us in the rest of the world to do it (except with our HO or N scale models), that is what confuses me, not why in general but why BNSF equipment can be made available in the U.S. but not to the rest of the world. Nothing about it makes even the slightest amount of sense so I'll just put it in the unsolved mysteries file.

Back OT I agree with your last sentence, the route is one of the first from DTG for a long while that I plan to purchase the day it comes out even with undecorated locos and Coloco tank cars.

[TheEmmaSweeny1]

they wont say coloco for long after our members get hold of them

[gtw5812]

Looking forward to this route.....it will give me something to play with, after I come home from running the "1:1 scale" real thing!

[TheEmmaSweeny1]

I hope this route sells good, in the eyes of DTG. that may allow for more NG

[TheEmmaSweeny1]

anybody hear any more news from dtg on this route?

[ozinoz]

Take a chill-pill

When there is, believe me, it will be reported. This is a much anticipated release, no crumb of info will slip under the rader un reported or un analysed...




EDIT: Having said that, if you havent already, check out http://milepostsimulations.com/ccng.html which includes route map and some new screenies and a lot of route and background info. Well worth a read