Amtrak HHP-8

[FanRailer]

I think it's sad that consumers have been brainwashed into believing that it's ok that everything they purchase needs to be fixed, improved, modified, upgraded or cared for like a 3 day old baby. I think this was a product of the computer age. Before buggy software was invented most people expected their purchases to work as promised.

It is a price we pay, but I'd rather have that than nothing at all.

[fecrails]

I think it's sad that consumers have been brainwashed into believing that it's ok that everything they purchase needs to be fixed, improved, modified, upgraded or cared for like a 3 day old baby. I think this was a product of the computer age. Before buggy software was invented most people expected their purchases to work as promised.

Spot on! With all of the amazing capabilities the computer age and more specifically the internet has brought us, there is also a big downside. We have basically become a self service society with just about everything we do. IMHO the increased efficiency that the computer ,PDA and internet has brought us has reached a point of diminishing returns. The technology is no longer transparent to the consumer, but instead has become a time, money and productivity drain.

[buzz456]

Come on you people, you're supposed to be having some fun not complaining about nits. I trust you all know what a nit is.

[Merlin75]

As the old saying go's you get what you pay for. Your paying $20 for a loco you get a mid to low end loco from DTG. If you was paying PMDG sort of prices $90 and was getting this kind of stuff then yes you would have every right to be upset. The thing to ask yourself do you want DTG to improve the stuff at the risk of the prices going up or do you want the lower prices and make do with what they offer ?

[spartantrain32]

Or secret option C : we all just get along and be happy. Lol. I mean c'mon you braggers, if its that darn important make it your dang self.

[FanRailer]

Or secret option C : we all just get along and be happy. Lol. I mean c'mon you braggers, if its that darn important make it your dang self.

Thank you lol...

[philmoberg]

Or secret option C : we all just get along and be happy. Lol. I mean c'mon you braggers, if its that darn important make it your dang self.

Hear! Hear!

[fecrails]

Come on you people, you're supposed to be having some fun not complaining about nits. I trust you all know what a nit is.

Hmmm, now I'm scratching my head!

[buzz456]

A nit is a tiny little bug that resides on a gnat's behind. In other words something very very small.

[donjgatlin]

You all should be ashamed of yourselves for the premature and incredibly crass comments you're making! You've seemed to have forgotten that these are very hard working and intelligent people who more than likely are doing the best they can to even get the product to you. Stop complaining about the nit-picky things and wait a minute and let them work. All I see is a bunch of ungrateful whining about a product that is yet to be put through the final stages of testing. Yes, there are some technical flaws with the content RSC produces from time to time, but you must remember that it is extremely difficult to get very high quality sounds. Chill out and don't get your underpants in a bunch. Sheesh.

[MattW]

Moving to what I hope is a neutral question. Does the simulator have the ability to distinguish between third rail and catenary? In other words, if someone ran a catenary locomotive into third rail territory without switching (if it's a train even capable of that), would they lose power as if they had ran into unelectrified territory? It's not too important, as someone who likes the ultimate realism, I'll just never run an overhead line train onto third rail anyways, but I'm curious if there's a technical distinction.

[jonmorrie]

Moving to what I hope is a neutral question. Does the simulator have the ability to distinguish between third rail and catenary? In other words, if someone ran a catenary locomotive into third rail territory without switching (if it's a train even capable of that), would they lose power as if they had ran into unelectrified territory? It's not too important, as someone who likes the ultimate realism, I'll just never run an overhead line train onto third rail anyways, but I'm curious if there's a technical distinction.

I'm able to run the Class 375/7 on the NEC so I would think RW does not make that distinction.

[FanRailer]

Moving to what I hope is a neutral question. Does the simulator have the ability to distinguish between third rail and catenary? In other words, if someone ran a catenary locomotive into third rail territory without switching (if it's a train even capable of that), would they lose power as if they had ran into unelectrified territory? It's not too important, as someone who likes the ultimate realism, I'll just never run an overhead line train onto third rail anyways, but I'm curious if there's a technical distinction.

I'm able to run the Class 375/7 on the NEC so I would think RW does not make that distinction.

I think it depends on the level of coding that goes into certain rolling stock. I'm pretty sure that a distinction is made at some level of code, but only newer releases would reflect that. IIRC, the 375 is an older release.

[philmoberg]

Moving to what I hope is a neutral question. Does the simulator have the ability to distinguish between third rail and catenary? ...

This is integral to the operation of the 395s on LF, and if you don't get it right, the power drops out until you do. Running the 395s on L-B, you have to be sure you have them set up for DC or you run around with the pantograph reaching into the sky. From what DTG have published about the Class 92s, it's the same as the 395s.

[rarecommonsense]

Moving to what I hope is a neutral question. Does the simulator have the ability to distinguish between third rail and catenary? In other words, if someone ran a catenary locomotive into third rail territory without switching (if it's a train even capable of that), would they lose power as if they had ran into unelectrified territory? It's not too important, as someone who likes the ultimate realism, I'll just never run an overhead line train onto third rail anyways, but I'm curious if there's a technical distinction.

I'm able to run the Class 375/7 on the NEC so I would think RW does not make that distinction.

I think it depends on the level of coding that goes into certain rolling stock. I'm pretty sure that a distinction is made at some level of code, but only newer releases would reflect that. IIRC, the 375 is an older release.

Actually, the 375/7 have pantograph cars, in case no one else knew this. Until I found out how to make consists of my own, I wasn't able to run them on the current NEC route. Now I can. Which is good, because should the NYNH section come without any Metro North trains packaged, or DLC, The 375/7's will just have to do when it comes to scenario making.