Canadian Route Coming Soon from RSC... [Rogers/Kicking Horse Pass]

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Re: Canadian Route Coming Soon from RSC... [Rogers/Kicking Horse Pass]

Unread postby wisrailfan » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:36 am

The second picture does resemble Morant's Curve from Kicking Horse Pass.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 909&nseq=8

and the first one looks like Stony Creek Bridge from Rogers Pass.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 93&nseq=10

Maybe it's a double length route including elements of both subdivisions?

Anyway, it's really good looking in the pictures shown so far.
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Re: Canadian Route Coming Soon from RSC...

Unread postby Rich_S » Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:51 pm

buzz456 wrote: They are like twin engine low wing airliners...................boring.


Yes, I'd like to know why every North American route released to date, except one, has been modern or present day. So far the only exception was Horseshoe and it was set in the 1950's. Of course the major blunder on the Horseshoe curve route is all of the freight trains are missing their cabin cars (cabooses to non P-Company fans) According to the rules, it was not a train until it had a caboose attached to the rear end. Helpers were added behind the caboose because they all had steel frames.

With that said, How about some routes set in the 1960's and 1970's when we still had the ALCO Century Series C424, C425, C430, C630, C636 running the rails. Along with EMD GP20's GP35's, SD35's, GP38's, SD38's, GP40's SD40's (NOTE: Not dash 2's), SDP40, F45, FP45, SDP40F. Also how about the GE Universal series or U-Boats U25B, U28B, U30B, U33B, U36B, U25C, U30C, U33C. Plus in the 60's you still had Fairbanks Morse H16-44's (Baby Train Masters) and H24-66's (Train Masters) polishing the rails of several major class one railroads. Not to mention all of the first generation motive power that was mixed in with second generation power in some very interesting power lash-up's. Todays railroading has become very borning, no wonder they call themselves transportation companies and not railroads today. Look their goes another EVO and another Ace. I'm glad to see another Canadian route, but can we get that back dated about 30 years just before the release of the SD50 ?????
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Re: Canadian Route Coming Soon from RSC...

Unread postby JohnTrainHead » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:06 pm

Rich_S wrote:
buzz456 wrote: They are like twin engine low wing airliners...................boring.


Yes, I'd like to know why every North American route released to date, except one, has been modern or present day. So far the only exception was Horseshoe and it was set in the 1950's. Of course the major blunder on the Horseshoe curve route is all of the freight trains are missing their cabin cars (cabooses to non P-Company fans) According to the rules, it was not a train until it had a caboose attached to the rear end. Helpers were added behind the caboose because they all had steel frames.

With that said, How about some routes set in the 1960's and 1970's when we still had the ALCO Century Series C424, C425, C430, C630, C636 running the rails. Along with EMD GP20's GP35's, SD35's, GP38's, SD38's, GP40's SD40's (NOTE: Not dash 2's), SDP40, F45, FP45, SDP40F. Also how about the GE Universal series or U-Boats U25B, U28B, U30B, U33B, U36B, U25C, U30C, U33C. Plus in the 60's you still had Fairbanks Morse H16-44's (Baby Train Masters) and H24-66's (Train Masters) polishing the rails of several major class one railroads. Not to mention all of the first generation motive power that was mixed in with second generation power in some very interesting power lash-up's. Todays railroading has become very borning, no wonder they call themselves transportation companies and not railroads today. Look their goes another EVO and another Ace. I'm glad to see another Canadian route, but can we get that back dated about 30 years just before the release of the SD50 ?????


How about Rollins Pass set in the 1970s? That would make a great mix of Rio Grande stock, plus early Amtrak, the Ski Train, etc.
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Re: Canadian Route Coming Soon from RSC...

Unread postby Rich_S » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:24 pm

JohnTrainHead wrote: How about Rollins Pass set in the 1970s? That would make a great mix of Rio Grande stock, plus early Amtrak, the Ski Train, etc.


The only problem with that is Rollins Pass was abandoned and rails removed in 1935.
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Re: Canadian Route Coming Soon from RSC... [Rogers/Kicking Horse Pass]

Unread postby JohnTrainHead » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:27 pm

I'm not talking about the old line... I'm pretty sure the Moffat Tunnel route is still referred to as Rollins Pass.
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Re: Canadian Route Coming Soon from RSC... [Rogers/Kicking Horse Pass]

Unread postby Giuseppe » Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:18 pm

JohnTrainHead wrote:I'm not talking about the old line... I'm pretty sure the Moffat Tunnel route is still referred to as Rollins Pass.


I'm fairly certain that it's not. The Moffat Tunnel line is generally referred to as the Moffat Tunnel line or the Tunnel Subdivision. When most people mention Rollins Pass nowadays, they're referring to the abandoned segment of track that leaves the mainline at Rollinsville and rejoins at Winter Park, not the line as a whole.

As to seeing the D&RGW line from Denver to Glenwood Springs (or even Grand Junction?) in Railworks, it does sound like a pretty cool idea. I'm not sure it would be super interesting operationally as the grades are pretty steady across the entire subdivision, but it would be cool to run nonetheless.

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Re: Canadian Route Coming Soon from RSC... [Rogers/Kicking Horse Pass]

Unread postby JohnTrainHead » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:12 pm

Giuseppe wrote:
JohnTrainHead wrote:I'm not talking about the old line... I'm pretty sure the Moffat Tunnel route is still referred to as Rollins Pass.


I'm fairly certain that it's not. The Moffat Tunnel line is generally referred to as the Moffat Tunnel line or the Tunnel Subdivision. When most people mention Rollins Pass nowadays, they're referring to the abandoned segment of track that leaves the mainline at Rollinsville and rejoins at Winter Park, not the line as a whole.

As to seeing the D&RGW line from Denver to Glenwood Springs (or even Grand Junction?) in Railworks, it does sound like a pretty cool idea. I'm not sure it would be super interesting operationally as the grades are pretty steady across the entire subdivision, but it would be cool to run nonetheless.

Thanks,

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My mistake. I've actually got to see a few trains at Glenwood Springs, both California Zephyrs, within minutes of each other when I spent a week in nearby Aspen this summer.

Got both of them on video:
Eastbound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDg7jRn ... =autoshare
Westbound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfaDOQA ... =autoshare



Now I'm going to try and get back on topic.... *!rolleyes!*

Sorry Buzz.... *!embar*!
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Re: Canadian Route Coming Soon from RSC... [Rogers/Kicking Horse Pass]

Unread postby buzz456 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:11 am

The Montour RR route is period.
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Re: Canadian Route Coming Soon from RSC... [Rogers/Kicking Horse Pass]

Unread postby dr1980 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:37 am

wisrailfan wrote:
Maybe it's a double length route including elements of both subdivisions?



This would be very exciting, and a very long haul!
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Re: Canadian Route Coming Soon from RSC...

Unread postby BNSFdude » Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:43 am

Rich_S wrote:
buzz456 wrote: They are like twin engine low wing airliners...................boring.


Yes, I'd like to know why every North American route released to date, except one, has been modern or present day. So far the only exception was Horseshoe and it was set in the 1950's. Of course the major blunder on the Horseshoe curve route is all of the freight trains are missing their cabin cars (cabooses to non P-Company fans) According to the rules, it was not a train until it had a caboose attached to the rear end. Helpers were added behind the caboose because they all had steel frames.

With that said, How about some routes set in the 1960's and 1970's when we still had the ALCO Century Series C424, C425, C430, C630, C636 running the rails. Along with EMD GP20's GP35's, SD35's, GP38's, SD38's, GP40's SD40's (NOTE: Not dash 2's), SDP40, F45, FP45, SDP40F. Also how about the GE Universal series or U-Boats U25B, U28B, U30B, U33B, U36B, U25C, U30C, U33C. Plus in the 60's you still had Fairbanks Morse H16-44's (Baby Train Masters) and H24-66's (Train Masters) polishing the rails of several major class one railroads. Not to mention all of the first generation motive power that was mixed in with second generation power in some very interesting power lash-up's. Todays railroading has become very borning, no wonder they call themselves transportation companies and not railroads today. Look their goes another EVO and another Ace. I'm glad to see another Canadian route, but can we get that back dated about 30 years just before the release of the SD50 ?????

No more EMDs please. I'd like some more variation from the GM crap I get on my shortline.
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Re: Canadian Route Coming Soon from RSC...

Unread postby thebigroyboyski » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:09 pm

JohnTrainHead wrote:To the guy making the freeware Kicking Horse Pass, I just want to say don't give up your work just because Johnathan and RSC are making the same line. Your route is amazing, and we can always have two models of the same route.


Cheers John !!*ok*!!
I've actually known this route was being made for a long time now which is why I haven't posted any updates to my WIP in a while. Unfortunately my route will now be vapourware *!sad!*

I checked my Morants Curve against the picture and the DEM matches. This means only one thing,
We are going to have a monster of a route to play with !!*ok*!!
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Re: Canadian Route Coming Soon from RSC...

Unread postby JohnTrainHead » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:11 pm

thebigroyboyski wrote:
JohnTrainHead wrote:To the guy making the freeware Kicking Horse Pass, I just want to say don't give up your work just because Johnathan and RSC are making the same line. Your route is amazing, and we can always have two models of the same route.


Cheers John !!*ok*!!
I've actually known this route was being made for a long time now which is why I haven't posted any updates to my WIP in a while. Unfortunately my route will now be vapourware *!sad!*

I checked my Morants Curve against the picture and the DEM matches. This means only one thing,
We are going to have a monster of a route to play with !!*ok*!!


How much of your route has been done? Maybe you can upload what you have here on RWA. I would certainly like to try it... !!*ok*!! :D
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Re: Canadian Route Coming Soon from RSC... [Rogers/Kicking Horse Pass]

Unread postby Rich_S » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:46 pm

buzz456 wrote:The Montour RR route is period.


Buzz, you forgot "the Greatest route ever" as in "The Montour RR route is the Greatest route ever period" he he he.... !*roll-laugh*! I just couldn't resist !*roll-laugh*!
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Re: Canadian Route Coming Soon from RSC... [Rogers/Kicking Horse Pass]

Unread postby krellnut » Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:09 pm

Look forward to its release, has a release date been posted?
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