UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

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Re: UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

Unread postby buzz456 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:32 pm

I repeat I don't know who QC this mess but the horn on the F7 you can't hear until you are right on top of it. The route is very nice but the rolling stock might win the award for the worst ever included with a route. I do NOT recommend this at this time. A lot of fixing is in order.
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Re: UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

Unread postby buzz456 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:38 pm

So much for some people calling me a fanboy.
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Re: UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

Unread postby BNSFdude » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:36 pm

Paper signal look means they didn't bother to make flares attach to the signal lighting nodes.

With the advancement in Lua scripting, this actually could mean that it's entirely possible to make signal indication transitions fade in and out as if they're proper incandescent bulbs.
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Re: UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

Unread postby BNSFdude » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:49 pm

raildriver wrote:
What is this? Buzz rivet counting?
Oh God, someone pinch me because I must be hallucinating.

Either the QA team was sleeping, or QA found issues and reported it only for nothing to be done.

This is the usual sing song of no one caring that we as a community should be used to seeing come out of the Dovetail Flywheel. *!rolleyes!*

I don't mean to come off as an elitist jerk, but my mission has been to raise the overall bar that other developers could then meet. Seems it's been a failure in this regard.
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Re: UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

Unread postby EngineerJohn » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:49 pm

This route was one of my faster refunds. About 20 minutes of messing around in free roam and another 10 or so of shaking my head laughing.
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Re: UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

Unread postby GenericZack » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:54 pm

BNSFdude wrote:I don't mean to come off as an elitist jerk, but my mission has been to raise the overall bar that other developers could then meet. Seems it's been a failure in this regard.


It has worked in some parts of this community. that is for sure.
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Re: UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

Unread postby jamesphh » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:20 pm

Additional info.
Can not hear horn inside cab! Headlight weak.(F7)

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Re: UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

Unread postby AmericanSteam » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:25 pm

How does it compare Raton Pass and Peace River? Those were by Milepost Simulations as well.
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Re: UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

Unread postby BNSFdude » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:58 pm

AmericanSteam wrote:How does it compare Raton Pass and Peace River? Those were by Milepost Simulations as well.

About as poor, to be totally frank.
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Re: UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

Unread postby Alpenfreight » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:12 pm

I was able to brighten up the signals a bit with a texture upgrade. Haven't found where the light source is defined yet

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Re: UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

Unread postby bnsfsubdivision » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:15 am

Alpenfreight wrote:I was able to brighten up the signals a bit with a texture upgrade. Haven't found where the light source is defined yet

It's either the wrong material or a very bad use of LODs on the mesh.
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Re: UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

Unread postby gtw5812 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:10 am

Maybe it is your settings in TS2020....I don't have too many problems with signals...….
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Re: UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

Unread postby jamesphh » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:17 am

You are showing the signal up close. What does it look like from 1/2 mile away? If you can't see a red signal from a half mile then you will not be able to stop in time.
Another flaw. Some of the whistle posts are on the wrong track. Route is mostly left hand running.
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Re: UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:00 am

raildriver wrote:
buzz456 wrote:I repeat I don't know who QC this mess but the horn on the F7 you can't hear until you are right on top of it. The route is very nice but the rolling stock might win the award for the worst ever included with a route. I do NOT recommend this at this time. A lot of fixing is in order.


What is this? Buzz rivet counting?
Oh God, someone pinch me because I must be hallucinating.


This ain't rivet counting pal this is a travesty of anything we should expect. The original IHH locomotives were better than these. This is a insult.
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Re: UP Wasatch Grade Route coming to TS2020

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:07 am

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