Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby BNSFdude » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:18 pm

I don't even mean just the gauges, the brakes are just about unusable on this. The F40 and galleries should have the 24RL like brake schedule that NJT has... I think it's called 26E, whereas they have that on the Baby Bullet stock which should have 30CDW.

The brakes are about as bad as the stock PSL equipment was.
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby Brickrail782 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:22 pm

BNSFdude wrote:The brakes on the F40... yikes.


What's wrong with the brakes?
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby GERUNIMO625 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:37 pm

BNSFdude wrote:I don't even mean just the gauges, the brakes are just about unusable on this. The F40 and galleries should have the 24RL like brake schedule that NJT has... I think it's called 26E, whereas they have that on the Baby Bullet stock which should have 30CDW.

The brakes are about as bad as the stock PSL equipment was.


Interesting, I don't know/pay attention much but all the Nippon cars we pull out of their plant here in Rochelle IL. have the 30... something, something brakes. I thought Gtrax got about as close as anyone (at least in appearance) to the real mccoy. Now I'm really starting to wonder if Nippon ever made cab cars with this configuration. !*don-know!*

Thanks for the heads up anyway!

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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby cnwfan » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:27 pm

Both the cab cars and the F40's with standard control stands have 26E brake values. It's basically a 26 that you have to lap yourself. In addition, there is an EP hold notch to allow not releasing of the brakes while charging the brake pipe. When doing a brake test, both a standard set and release, along with an EP hold and release were required per the air brake rules. On the fireman's side of the F40's just above the front truck is a brake pipe gauge to aid the conductor when doing an EP hold test (when control is from the cab car). Conductor would call for a set, observe the gauge drop pressure. Once the needle stopped moving, he would signal the engineer to go into EP hold. The gauge would charge back up, but the brakes would not release. Finally, the conductor would call for a release, and the brakes would release when the brake value handle is put into the release position.
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby mjlevy1118 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:29 pm

Ugh. I was looking forward to getting this addon. But people are already talking about a number of brake problems and throttle issues with the new equipment, so I guess I'll pass on this one. Disappointing. *!rolleyes!*
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:32 pm

Is there a user manual included with the route and trains?

Are the brakes explained in detail?

That cab in the cabcar looks very cramped with standard parts from a EMD control stand on the left and the brake valve on the right (I presume) No LCD screen in the cabcar?
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby ex-railwayman » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:15 pm

ElphabaWS wrote:
dejoh wrote: To the left of the picture is a switch that probably can't fit one car. Needs better quality control. Shouldn't be that difficult .
This is the same location as viewed on Google Maps and exists today. Perhaps best to look before you leap.

Yes, but, dejoh is partly correct in his assessment of this particular location, Gary. I'm positive in real life you could have been able to park up an SW1200/1500/MP15 on both of those 2 roads, before the metal gate was situated there, and rail access to the cement plant was curtailed, possibly even position a solitary 2 bay cement hopper there, and be able to change the point levers effectively. HOWEVER, try doing it in this game, it's impossible, and we've had this problem on a number of DTG routes, British and American, over the years, the tracks need to be stretched long enough to allow us to be able to use them for their intended purpose, you can't even park a bicycle on those tracks and switch the points on the 2D map, they might as well have not bothered putting them on, really.

Cheerz. Steve.
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:26 pm

Scrap metal price probably not high enough to warrant removing that switch and the stubs all together?

My problem with the modeled layout is that these tracks look the same as regularly used mainline track. A different track rule should have been applied making the stubs look like disused rusty rails on rotten ties, sunken in dirt, covered with weeds and debris. Now it looks all too proper and clean. Attention to this and trackside details like clutter and junk make a route come alive, but of course require lots more time from the creators.
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby buzz456 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:38 pm

All you nitpickers aside this route so far is a blast to run. If you pass you're going to miss a lot of fun. Whatever.... as the kids say.
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby ChrisOnline » Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:37 pm

Do others have the same problem as me . . no Quickdrive for the extended route, only the original northbound and southbound between San Fran and San Jose.

I tired uninstalling and re-installing, but still no joy. The write-up blurb does say "Quickdrive compatible"
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby OpenRailer90 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:01 pm

It’s probably because you are looking at the entry for the old route not the new extended route.
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby dr1980 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:22 pm

Regarding the F40 brakes, are they unusable, unrealistic, annoying? Just trying to get a grip on the issue before I decide to buy. Is it undrivable? I can deal with the last two but not the first.

For reference I found the engine that came with the original Caltrain route annoying, but not annoying enough to stop using it.
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby buzz456 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:29 pm

ChrisOnline wrote:Do others have the same problem as me . . no Quickdrive for the extended route, only the original northbound and southbound between San Fran and San Jose.

I tired uninstalling and re-installing, but still no joy. The write-up blurb does say "Quickdrive compatible"


"Lookin in all the wrong places" dah dah dah. !*roll-laugh*! !*roll-laugh*!

Full QD is there.
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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby buzz456 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:32 pm

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Re: Peninsula Corridor: San Francisco – Gilroy route

Unread postby rarecommonsense » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:38 pm

Well, this addon suffers worse than the previous offering. The Brakes on the F40 are not functioning correctly. This is inexcusable, and even more so because the previous offering with the MP36 still has not been addressed, and it's been about a year now, and also included in the 2018 package.We now have this full version, of a new Loco offering, that shouldn't have gotten past Q&A dept. I'm not really understanding the point of having a beta team, when faulty products are being released, in spite of their testers making them aware of the issues time after time, well before it is set to be distributed. This is very discouraging to folks who show their support with their wallets and do it out of good faith. Other than that, The route looks great.
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