Amtrak HHP-8

[arizonachris]

Nice. 3rd rail. the HHP-8 has a pantograph. No 3rd rail capabilities.

Aww, come on! Did you not read the Posts before you? It's a "beauty shot"! *sigh* (thank you, Fan Railer)

[FanRailer]

Nice. 3rd rail. the HHP-8 has a pantograph. No 3rd rail capabilities.

Aww, come on! Did you not read the Posts before you? It's a "beauty shot"! *sigh* (thank you, Fan Railer)

I personally think Trenton Transit Center would be a good place to take a functional shot of the HHP-8. The catenary there is relatively unobstructive:

[1225fan5358]

Nice. 3rd rail. the HHP-8 has a pantograph. No 3rd rail capabilities.

Aww, come on! Did you not read the Posts before you? It's a "beauty shot"! *sigh* (thank you, Fan Railer)

Meh. I read facebook.

[GSkid]

So much hostility with the sounds XP. I wonder if you realize that they mostly rely on 3rd parties to supply a lot of the sounds from North American stock since it is very expensive to send someone over to do sound recording all the way from England.

Basically, the quality of the sounds they have to use are only as good as the people who are on our side of the pond that do 3rd party railfanning and recording for them.

While I agree to an extent, DTG is at fault for not previewing it's locos for community input. That way they get the feedback from tons of bolt counters as to whether the horn is correct or not and have the issue resolved BEFORE release. That way they get happy customers, a good reputation and can work on future DLC instead of paying someone to fix it after the fact. But instead.... they just release it and THEN get the input afterwards. There's a reason movie studios do test screenings to know what works and what needs to be fixed BEFORE a movie is released.

Here they have a community that will tell them for FREE what is wrong with their DLC before it's sent for release and they don't bother. So I'm at a crossroads with DTG. I've purchased some half-baked DLC from them in the past and looked past the flaws. I'm gonna be much more careful on what I open my wallet to now. If they want to survive as a company, they had better get their act together.

I looked for the first time at the user reviews on Steam of TS2014 last week and was surprised at the sheer amount of bad reviews. And a lot of them were detailed, not just a short drive-by review. I hope they listen and act. There are other rail sim options out there for us.

[hertsbob]

If they want to survive as a company, they had better get their act together.

You've been on TS.com, haven't you?

The Marketing chaps and chapesses take the screenshots that get published to Facebook etc., and they've committed equally heinous sins in the past as sticking this loco somewhere it can't physically run before, and no doubt they will continue to do so.

Here's a new route. Here's a new loco that goes with the route. Here's somewhere that looks relatively nice. Screenshot. Publish. Job done.

Seriously, it's not like you guys don't know the rest of the route has overhead wires, so there's no point in getting excited about the screenshot being in a random location. Absolutely irrelevant. (Accepted it's a bit crap of them to do so, but whatevva)

[buzz456]

It would be interesting to actually find out what the beta process is. I know one beta tester who says that often things he reports (things we complain about) do not get fixed before release. Curious that some of these things would be ignored since some are fairly easy to correct. Earlier there was a conversation about horns. There are just a bunch of great horns out there so why would they put second rate horns out there other than the obvious fact that they haven't really heard US horns. Someone has never introduced them to U-Tube apparently.

We will wait to know why. Maybe sometime we will know. Maybe with enough constructive criticism someone will finally start to put out a superior product.

[SouthernPacific-Mike]

I wonder if anyone is taking up the Amtrak Cities Sprinter (ACS-64)? Has anyone seen any scuttlebutt on this? Because it being more modern and up to date, I would think it would be on someone hit list.

[buzz456]

I don't even know what that is.

[FanRailer]

So much hostility with the sounds XP. I wonder if you realize that they mostly rely on 3rd parties to supply a lot of the sounds from North American stock since it is very expensive to send someone over to do sound recording all the way from England.

Basically, the quality of the sounds they have to use are only as good as the people who are on our side of the pond that do 3rd party railfanning and recording for them.

While I agree to an extent, DTG is at fault for not previewing it's locos for community input. That way they get the feedback from tons of bolt counters as to whether the horn is correct or not and have the issue resolved BEFORE release. That way they get happy customers, a good reputation and can work on future DLC instead of paying someone to fix it after the fact. But instead.... they just release it and THEN get the input afterwards. There's a reason movie studios do test screenings to know what works and what needs to be fixed BEFORE a movie is released.

Here they have a community that will tell them for FREE what is wrong with their DLC before it's sent for release and they don't bother. So I'm at a crossroads with DTG. I've purchased some half-baked DLC from them in the past and looked past the flaws. I'm gonna be much more careful on what I open my wallet to now. If they want to survive as a company, they had better get their act together.

I looked for the first time at the user reviews on Steam of TS2014 last week and was surprised at the sheer amount of bad reviews. And a lot of them were detailed, not just a short drive-by review. I hope they listen and act. There are other rail sim options out there for us.

Well, I can say that I have personally been contacted about improving rolling stock recently, so until the next wave of releases, I would withhold judgement on whether or not they are actually stepping up their game.

[NSrailfan6130]

I wonder if anyone is taking up the Amtrak Cities Sprinter (ACS-64)? Has anyone seen any scuttlebutt on this? Because it being more modern and up to date, I would think it would be on someone hit list.

They are making the ACS-64 or am I totally not understanding what he is asking?

[FanRailer]

I wonder if anyone is taking up the Amtrak Cities Sprinter (ACS-64)? Has anyone seen any scuttlebutt on this? Because it being more modern and up to date, I would think it would be on someone hit list.

They are making the ACS-64 or am I totally not understanding what he is asking?

I think he is just unaware that they are already making the ACS-64. Not everyone here follows every forum or topic.

Back to the sound thing... It really isn't that hard to drop in your own sounds into existing rolling stock. People who fuss about stuff like this just make themselves seem really lazy:

[Haystack]

Back to the sound thing... It really isn't that hard to drop in your own sounds into existing rolling stock. People who fuss about stuff like this just make themselves seem really lazy

I'm not defending any side on the sound issue here, but I think the point they're trying to make is that if they're shelling out $20-$40 of their hard earned money, they expect to NOT have to change anything.

[buzz456]

In a perfect world.......................

In a more serious vein I paid forty thousand bucks for a chevy that I now understand has a ignition switch that might kill me. Now that is a problem worth complaining about not something that cost twenty bucks that's pretty easy to fix.

[thecanadianrail]

In a perfect world.......................

In a more serious vein I paid forty thousand bucks for a chevy that I now understand has a ignition switch that might kill me. Now that is a problem worth complaining about not something that cost twenty bucks that's pretty easy to fix.

I must agree on this one.

[Toripony]

I think it's sad that consumers have been brainwashed into believing that it's ok that everything they purchase needs to be fixed, improved, modified, upgraded or cared for like a 3 day old baby. I think this was a product of the computer age. Before buggy software was invented most people expected their purchases to work as promised.