NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

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Re: NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

Unread postby bpetit » Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:53 pm

Whoops that slipped through testing *!rolleyes!*. I'll see what I can do.
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Re: NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:59 pm

Ah HA!!!!!!! !!det!! !!bang!! !!bang!! !!bang!! !!bang!!
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Re: NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

Unread postby FanRailer » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:17 pm

mdurdan wrote:No he means this.. *!embar*! !*not-ok*!

Yea, and that's what I'm talking about with the AEM-7s as well.
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Re: NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

Unread postby MattW » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:30 pm

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johnmckenzie wrote:Now I don't get this one - the HHP-8 comes with its own Amfleet coaches. But you'll be using it on either the original route or this route, both of which have their own bundled Amfleets - so the HHP-8 doesn't need bundled coaches as well. All that does is eat unneccessary HD space as far as I can see

Yes, but this way if someone buys only the HHP-8 and not buy the route, then can use the HHP-8 consists on any other route - eg in Quick Drive (imagination is free).
Otherwise it, it would not be possible.

But why couldn't they just include the same Amfleets in both? If you get both, they get overwritten which might have a few problems, but it's far less complex.
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Re: NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

Unread postby FanRailer » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:23 pm

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mdurdan wrote:No he means this.. *!embar*! !*not-ok*!

Yea, and that's what I'm talking about with the AEM-7s as well.



I just did some Toaster runs, and never saw anything like that... yea theres stretch, but not to the extent shown. at least with the AEMs the couplers are attached...

and bpetit, thanks !!*ok*!!

I find that with the AEM-7s sometimes, it happens, sometimes, it doesn't. But now we're getting beside the point. I'm just happy that the ACS-64 doesn't do that.
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Re: NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

Unread postby MattW » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:03 pm

It seems that the new locomotives (at least the ACS-64) is not completely backwards compatible with the old NEC's cab signaling. I was watching one of Fan Railer's videos of the ACS 64 from Penn Station to Newark Airport and noticed the cab speed display zeroed out at times. I don't have the route myself to test however.
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Re: NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

Unread postby FanRailer » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:04 pm

MattW wrote:It seems that the new locomotives (at least the ACS-64) is not completely backwards compatible with the old NEC's cab signaling. I was watching one of Fan Railer's videos of the ACS 64 from Penn Station to Newark Airport and noticed the cab speed display zeroed out at times. I don't have the route myself to test however.

Yea. I discovered that as well. If you want to run the ACS-64 on the original stretch of the NEC, you have to operate with the ATC cut out, or else the penalty stops will put a quick end to your journey.

EDIT: this is also true for the HHP-8, as the coding for the cab signal interface is shared with the ACS-64.
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Re: NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

Unread postby bpetit » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:24 pm

Ouch it only took me a day or two to make the first 2 minute scene of my video. Its going to be a long week.
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Re: NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

Unread postby FanRailer » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:45 am

The mod pack I created for the ACS-64 which allows you to choose between 6400 kW and 5000 kW ratings to operate in has been uploaded to the file library and is currently awaiting publication:
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Re: NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

Unread postby jamesphh » Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:35 am

I ran across an interesting situation running a freeroam from New Rochelle to GCT ( Grand Central Terminal). Using a SD 40 as I was in the tunnel to GCT the alerter came on stating that I was exceeding the speed of zero (0). The posted limit was 60 MPH.
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This may be signal related. There is a signal that shows red on the 2D map and will not turn green. It shows as green on the in cab display. It also should be green in a freeroam. Tabbing will get approval but alarm still sounds after crossing the sensor. A couple of signal past this all is OK.
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Re: NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

Unread postby BNSFdude » Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:28 pm

mdurdan wrote:Very impressed with this!
Only complaints I have are the pipes going to the horns (we don't have those in the US, we use the manafold)

actually I thought this too and raised a flag in beta, when the artist showed a picture of the prototype. They use a K5LA with CDF (conical debris filters) and Heated Back caps. The piping is just hoses for a heating system to keep the horn from freezing.
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Re: NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

Unread postby Bermúdez » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:11 pm

mdurdan wrote:No he means this.. *!embar*! !*not-ok*!

Same here. I've already reported this issue to DTG support.

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Re: NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

Unread postby Bermúdez » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:38 pm

mdurdan wrote:This might resolve by swapping couplers. I'll mess with these and see if I can make a fix. If they don't fix it I'll release a fix !!*ok*!!

I think the problem lies in the lines which are in the SpringCoefficient and Damping labels in the coupling blueprint of the HHP-8.

Here the values of the HHP-8:
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An here the values of the ACS-64:
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The differences are noticeable.
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Re: NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

Unread postby FanRailer » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:42 pm

Bermúdez wrote:
mdurdan wrote:This might resolve by swapping couplers. I'll mess with these and see if I can make a fix. If they don't fix it I'll release a fix !!*ok*!!

I think the problem lies in the lines which are in the SpringCoefficient and Damping labels in the coupling blueprint of the HHP-8.

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Compare that line of code between the HHP-8 and the ACS-64; since the ACS-64 doesn't have the same issue as the HHP-8, it is only safe to assume that copying the corresponding values in the ACS-64 code into the HHP-8 code might solve the problem.
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Re: NEC Extension or Maybe a new Route

Unread postby Bermúdez » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:49 pm

Sorry FanRailer, I edited my previous post while you sent yours.

EDIT:
Yes, I checked.
Copying these values ​​of the ACS-64 coupling to the HHP-8 coupling solves the problem. !!*ok*!!
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